Re: [ebxml-msg] Multiple Acknowledgment elements with the sameactorURI?

[Matthew MacKenzie <matt@xmlglobal.com>]

There were not any real world instances discussed, just a couple people 
who thought it was an immediate business requirement because it was 
mentioned in the spec.

Solid, real-world use cases from a few parties would be great.  
Personally, I'd like to see one of the following:

a) Explicit routing, possibly by adding a sequence attribute to the To 
element.
b) bring back Via.

a allows for routing through multiple gateways on a predetermined path. 
  b allows for basic proxy functionality.  Both require a change to the 
CPA schema, to allow more than 2 parties to be described.

-Matt
On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, at 08:26  AM, Monica Martin wrote:

> May wish to consider some real-world, potential instances of use of
> multi-hop as discussed in last week's eBES ebXML Interoperability 
> Pilot.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@xmlglobal.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:56 AM
> To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Multiple Acknowledgment elements with the same
> actorURI?
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>
> During the face to face, there was discussion of
>
> a) Fixing multi-hop, since there is a perception by vendors that it is
> broken or not worthy of implementation.
> b) Removing multi-hop altogether, and possibly supporting it in the
> future via our new modular MessageHeader if BPSS/CPPA indicate that we
> need to provide this functionality.
>
> We should add a note to the applicable requirement pointing to this
> email so that if (b) is followed, we can make sure the schema/spec
> restricts the acknowledgment element.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2002, at 10:33 AM, Christopher B Ferris wrote:
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> Dave, it isn't a bulk acknowledgment message, this is to accomodate
> the potential need to have both a point-to-point and and-to-end
> acknowledgment carried in the header of the same message.
>
> I believe that you'll find the rules for this quite well defined and
> constrained
> in the normative prose of the spec.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christopher Ferris
> Architect, Emerging e-business Industry Architecture
> email: chrisfer@us.ibm.com
> phone: +1 508 234 3624
>
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> Hi all,
>
> Would anybody be able to confirm that it is the intention of the MSS 
> 2.0
>
> specification to allow multiple Acknowlegdment elements with the same
> actor URI on a single ebXML message?  (something of a 'bulk
> acknowledgment' message).
>
> The schema allows it, the 'interaction' rules allow it, although the
> spec wording always refers to Acknowledgment elements in a singular
> sense when discussing inclusion in a message.
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>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
> Dave Elliot
> XML Global Technologies
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