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Subject: RE: [egov-ms] OASIS eGOV STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING - PAPERS
Colin, I like this and sincerely wish the EU (as EU, looking at the needs of EU institutions and cross-border EU services) would indeed take such an approach. Of course, part of the problem is precisely that it is difficult to determine what “EU standardisation policies” are as they can fall into any number of categories: -
Standards that are explicitly developed by the European standards system in response to a directive from the European Commission and which are ‘binding’ on all, at national and EU levels; -
Standards that are assimilated or otherwise adopted at a European level by the ESOs in order to establish a common EU approach but which may originate in a national standard, likewise binding; -
An acceptance at the EU level of an existing national standard or, troubling to many, acceptance of several national standards – and not always 100% compatible with each other and which causes many
problems when trying to make them binding across the EU -
Standards and specifications approved by specific European Commission departments and which are binding on the EU institutions alone and/or on projects funded by the EU and involving member state administrations. I think that these distinctions also need to be clearer so that there is either a “hierarchy of norms” or the clear application of the “subsidiarity principle” (‘as much centralisation as necessary, as much decentralisation
as possible’). Peter From: Colin Wallis [mailto:Colin.Wallis@dia.govt.nz]
Many thanks Steve It looks like a really useful conference. I for one would really love to know what the EU’s ICT standardisation policies are…and no
doubt others using profiles of OASIS specs would as well. If something like ‘STORK SAML’ was any example to go by, one can’t help but get the sense of potentially avoidable ‘wheel re-inventing’
in the way the profile is loosely based on SAML, but unlikely to be capable of interoperation with other SAML profiles, even if vendors could be convinced to implement the features in their products. Individual member states seem to have a far more pragmatic
view to profiling, which is good news of course. Wouldn’t it be great if the EU came out with a policy like..
‘We will profile existing specs and not create our own wherever possible. When we do, we make an explicit choice between aggregation
and composition, (preferring aggregation so that when X falls over, Y doesn’t fall with it). We will keep the existing open specification schemas intact, so when we add our EU requirements, we do that as ‘sub containers’ so that the existing schema still
parses successfully’ Cheers Colin From: Steve Mutkoski (LCA) [mailto:Steve.Mutkoski@microsoft.com]
As I just mentioned in the course of our discussion, there is an interesting presentation or two on EU ICT Standardization policy, including an appearance by Liliana Brykman
(Director Regulatory Policy, DG Enterprise and Industry, European Commission). The conference is: Standardization and Innovation in Information Technology 28 - 30 September 2011
in Berlin, Germany and I have attached a conference flyer. From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
Attached are the papers for our Steering Committee meeting next Monday, 12th
Sept, commencing at 19.00 CET. The meeting is open to all members of the Member Section who are welcome to attend. The conference call number(s) are in the Agenda file attached. I want to spend the majority of this meeting and our next F2F one at the International Cloud Symposium having an in-depth review of our purpose and future direction. Recently our efforts have
flagged not least because of the problems with the MS funding ballot, but with that coming to a conclusion one way or another in the next few weeks, now is an appropriate time to review our Work Programme, copy attached, and decide how we can re-invigorate
our efforts. So please give this some thought and come to the meeting with some bright new ideas! Regards John Borras Chair OASIS eGOV MS Steering Committee m. +(0)44 7976 157745 Skype: gov3john ==== |
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