RE: [egov] RE: A proposal regarding the Language TranslationSubcommittee

[Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>]

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I wanted to bring up a couple of points regarding the potential "Language Translation" Subcommittee.  During our first TC meeting last month, we briefly discussed how it wasn't only language that we were addressing in this proposed SC, but the broader context of culture, social, and even ideological differences between governments, government agencies, and citizens.  I believe that we proposed considering it within a broader umbrella of 'Internationalization'.

 

The HumanMarkup TC is specifically looking at many of these issues.  In the broader range of services, one of our special interests is in establishing diplomatic services.  We are in the process of forming a Diplomatic Communications subcommittee within the HumanMarkup TC partly to this effect, to explore the codification of some of the protocols used within these communications processes.

 

I would actually be willing to represent interests pertaining to these issues, as well as broader language and translation issues, through both my work at the Fund for the City of New York and the HumanMarkup TC.  Although the spot of chair is currently open, it may be too early for me to consider a role such as this due to my own schedule.  However, I would certainly be able as a representative for this arena to ensure that traction is made in coordinating these activities as well.

 

From my standpoint, it is also very important that work in this arena proceed hand-in-hand with both the work on the upcoming Diplomatic Communications SC within HumanMarkup, as well as with ensuring we gather representation from international diplomatic agencies within the eGov TC.   From the standpoint of the effort as a whole, it seems important that features relating to cross-cultural translation, linguistic and otherwise, are taken into account from the onset. 

 

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Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga

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rkthunga@humanmarkup.org
HumanMarkup TC - Chair
Fund for the City of New York - Technology Consultant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:34 AM
To: John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk; Reynolds, Peter; Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com
Cc: egov@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [egov] RE: A proposal regarding the Language Translation Subcommittee

Please excuse my brief interjection. I don't usually post to lists in which I don't actively participate. However, in this case I suspect you might benefit from some relatively objective  advice. I think you would be well-advised to choose an idependent OASIS member rather than a member-company representative for chairing a subcommittee where you can't field a government representative.

I will return to monitoring silently.

Ciao,

Rex

At 12:06 PM +0000 1/9/03, John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk wrote:

Peter/Tony
We certainly will need to have a discussion to sort out our respective remits but as yet we don't have anybody to lead our sub-committee so we'll have to take a rain check on that for now.  I'll add it to our TO Do list and we'll get back in touch as soon as we can find a name.
Regards,
John

"Reynolds, Peter" <Peter.Reynolds@bowneglobal.ie>

29/12/2002 16:41
       
        To:        "'Patrick Gannon'" <patrick.gannon@oasis-open.org>, Evdemon John <evdemon_john@bah.com>, John.Borras@e-envoy.gsi.gov.uk
        cc:        egov@lists.oasis-open.org, "'Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com'" <Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com>
        Subject:        RE: A proposal regarding the Language Translation Subcommittee

Hi John,

Patrick is correct in his outline of the scope of the Translation Web
Services TC.

There are probably areas where your sub-committee can work with not just the
TWS TC but the XLIFF group as well. I have been involved with the XLIFF TC
since that started and that has some of the most knowledgeable people in
this area as members. Tony Jewtushenko is chair of the XLIFF TC. It might be
worth having a discussion so each group knows what each other is doing and
how we can work together.

I will be out of the office next week but available in the week starting
January 6th.

Thanks,

Peter.


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Gannon [mailto:patrick.gannon@oasis-open.org]
Sent: 26 December 2002 17:55
To: Evdemon John; John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk
Cc: egov@lists.oasis-open.org; Peter.Reynolds@bowneglobal.ie
Subject: RE: A proposal regarding the Language Translation Subcommittee


John E.,

From my understanding of the charter of the Translation Web Services TC,
their scope is focused on defining the vocabulary and WSDL interactions
between publishers of information and translation vendors.  To the extent
that Governments have unique requirements regarding how they need to
interact with translation vendors to translate documents, web sites and
information used in transactions, then it would likely be appropriate for
the e-Government TC's Language Translation Subcommittee (LTS) to establish a
Liaison with the Translation WS TC.  It was my understanding, however, that
the scope of the LTS was broader than that of the T-WS TC.

In either case, I have included the T-WS TC Chair, Peter Reynolds, in this
email thread so that he can more appropriately interact with the
e-Government TC Chair. Possibly there would be someone from the T-WS TC who
would volunteer to Chair the LT Subcommittee and provide the Liaison
function.

Respectfully submitted from an Observer,

Patrick Gannon
President & CEO
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-----Original Message-----
From: Evdemon John [mailto:evdemon_john@bah.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 11:29 AM
To: John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk
Cc: egov@lists.oasis-open.org;
Subject: A proposal regarding the Language Translation Subcommittee


WRT the proposed Language Translation subcommittee, might this entire
subcommittee be replaced with a liaison (or liaisons) with the new OASIS

Translation Web Services TC?

John Evdemon
Senior Associate
Digital Strategies
Booz | Allen | Hamilton


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