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Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats andContainer Shipment Tracking
Joe, I don't think Patrick realizes how this stuff works in government ; -) Sure the FEA has the role he mentioned - but just because something is in the FEA does not mean its a mandated edict - its more a Smorgesborg of guidelines and best practices to be selected from as needed. Yes - its nice that ebXML is in there - but that does mean to say that everything each agency is doing has to use it - just that they can if they want to. You can be sure they are also doing things where its probably very smart for them to use ebXML - but they are not! Education as always is the tough part. Mentioning which BTW (you knew I could work something into this) Patrick has helped me on a paper detailing approaches to using ebXML and the Benefits - which people will doubtless find instructive: http://ebxmlbook.com/Benefits of ebXML.pdf Enjoy, DW ======================================== Chiusano Joseph wrote: >Hi Patrick, > >Could you perhaps elaborate on your reference below regarding ebXML and >the FEA Data Reference Model? I wasn't sure how to interpret your >description. > >Kind Regards, >Joe Chiusano >Booz Allen Hamilton >Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > >phogan@sinotechnologies.com wrote: > > >>John, >> >>The CIO Council is using OASIS ebXML as a key data reference model for its Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). The 28 federal departments, including Homeland Security and Justice, must adhere to the FEA. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> >>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:58 -0700 >>To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>,"Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com> >>Subject: RE: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats and Container Shipment Tracking >> >> >> >>>There are similar RFID initiatives already underway. >>> >>>What does ebXML add here? >>> >>> >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] >>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:39 AM >>>>To: Duane Nickull >>>>Cc: eGov OASIS; phogan@sinotechnologies.com; A.J. (Tony) Blazej >>>>Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror >>>>Threats and Container Shipment Tracking >>>> >>>>Duane, >>>> >>>>Turns out the WCO folks are harmonizing the Customs Handling >>>>form data. >>>>That's not enough level of detail into the container history itself. >>>>The old EDI US Customs 309 manifest and its UN equivalent >>>>shows overall >>>>manifest and packing of containers in vessel, but not history >>>>of containers. >>>> >>>>Brainstorming this - seems like we need a lightweight system - >>>>preferably thru hand held devices that can scan container >>>>info' - and then >>>>input logistics tracking details - and WIFI that to an ebXML server. >>>>Making it hand-held means truck drivers can use them >>>>cab-side - and then the terminal can upload the information and >>>>consolidate the shipment history accordingly. >>>> >>>>DW >>>> >>>> >>>>Duane Nickull wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>David et al: >>>>> >>>>>World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I believe. >>>> >>>> >>>>>They are a UN org. They have something called the Secure container >>>>>initiative or something like that they are working on. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Duane >>>>> >>>>>David RR Webber wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of >>>>>>Hutchinson, who had >>>>>>44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for >>>>>>support from >>>>>>governments to help turn around the current vulnerability >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>situation. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>Having been >>>>>>ignored here in the USA. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from >>>>the roster of the OASIS TC), go to >>>>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leav >>>>e_workgroup.php. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>Patrick Hogan >>Sino Technologies Corp. >>(408)569-0973 >>http://www.sinotechnologies.com >> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. >> >> > > >
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