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Subject: Re: [ekmi] My slip-up and an update


Hi Arshad,

It is often best to *not* have the same name mean multiple things.

For example: bear. Which am I talking about, the four footed 
animal or a burden or even meaning to move in the direction of 
(to bear right)?

Then there are words like, there, their, and they're. Written on 
paper it is easy to see the differences but when speaking a lot 
of effort and confusion can develop. Homonyms in English and 
similar confusions make English among the most difficult of 
languages to achieve fluency in.

The more explicit the words chosen are and the less overlap the 
less the chance of silly, but understandable, coding errors.

Given that it is current estimated that ~400,000 bugs of various 
sorts and severities are being coded into programs currently but 
only about 50,000 a year are being found and eliminated, we 
should do our best to chose keyword sets that reduce the 
likelihood of inadvertent mistakes.

Allen Schaaf - CISSP, C|EH, C|HFI, CEI
Information Security & Risk Analyst - Business Process Analyst
Training & Instructional Designer - Sr. Documentation Developer
Certified Network Security Analyst and Intrusion Forensics 
Investigator - Certified EC-Council Instructor

Security is lot like democracy - everyone's for it but
few understand that you have to work at it constantly.




Arshad Noor wrote:
> We could do this.  Under this scheme, there would be three
> kinds of SKSML messages (actually 5, but I'm ignoring the
> KeyCachePolicy messages for the discussion):
> 
> 1) NewSymkeyRequest (for new symmetric keys)
> 2) SymkeyRequest (for existing symmetric keys)
> 3) SymkeyResponse
> 
> Under the older scheme, there would be 2 kinds of messages:
> 
> 1) SymkeyRequest (for new and existing symmetric keys)
> 2) SymkeyResponse
> 
> Personally speaking - and being a bit of a minimalist - I'd 
> prefer to stay with the 2-message protocol.  Less work on the
> spec but no change on the implementation - the server code
> would still have to branch its code based on the request no
> matter which way the message came.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Arshad 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anil Saldhana" <Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com>
> To: "Arshad Noor" <arshad.noor@strongauth.com>
> Cc: "ekmi" <ekmi@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:27:27 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
> Subject: Re: [ekmi] My slip-up and an update
> 
> Very interesting that it took me close to a month to answer this. :(
> 
> I was referring to the usage of GKID to indicate that the request is for 
> a new symmetric key.  Why not have an explicit element such as
> 
> ekmi:NewSymKeyRequest
> 
> 
> 
> Arshad Noor wrote:
>> I will expand the abbreviations to reflect the full and
>> meaningful names, Anil.  However, I don't recall the "new
>> XML element to obtain the symmetric key".  Can you refresh
>> my memory on that?  Thanks.
>>
>> Arshad
>>
>> Anil Saldhana wrote:
>>> Arshad,
>>>   additionally as discussed at IDTrust08, I hope we can get the 
>>> expansion of the abbreviated xml element names and a new xml element 
>>> (to obtain sym key) into the drafts.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anil
>>>
>>> Arshad Noor wrote:
>>>> Thank you, Allen.  I will send out sections of the
>>>> document as it gets ready rather than wait till the
>>>> end.
>>>>
>>>> Hope your recovery goes well.
>>>>
>>>> Arshad
>>>>
>>>> Allen wrote:
>>>>> Hi Arshad,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be happy to be editor for this. I'm currently recovering from a 
>>>>> minor surgery so I have the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen
>>>>>
>>>>> Arshad Noor wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you, Mike.  Any volunteers for Editor?  I'm not sure the
>>>>>> author can serve as Editor too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arshad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Nelson wrote:
>>>>>>> Arshad,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be glad to contribute to the review of formal specification 
>>>>>>> document
>>>>>>> for SKSML. The checklist seems fairly straightforward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/22/08 3:06 PM, "Arshad Noor" <arshad.noor@strongauth.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 2) I received some information from Mary McRae that the TC needs
>>>>>>>>     to write a formal Specification document for SKSML - the XSD
>>>>>>>>     isn't sufficient :-(.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I am happy to start the writing work on this, but I will need
>>>>>>>>     some support for a formal Editor and some Reviewers.  May I
>>>>>>>>     request some volunteers from interested TC members?  There is
>>>>>>>>     a checklist of what needs to be done at this URL:
>>>>>>>>     http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/QAChecklist.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     My goal is to try to get a Spec created in time for a May or
>>>>>>>>     June TC vote.
>>>>>>>>
> 
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