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Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd


It's only a naming convention, so I think consistency is the most important thing. Otherwise it leads to errors. We should use one convention throughout, and I think that should be the current one.
 
Regards
 
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ross [mailto:ross@secstan.com]
Sent: 15 November 2006 09:52
To: 'Paul Spencer'; 'John Borras'; 'David RR Webber (XML)'
Cc: 'eml'
Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

All,

 

I think it make sense to not change what we done already (there are quite a few implementations out there using EML).

 

 It’s not a critical interoperability issue to leave them unchanged at the moment, but changing what we have already done at this point in time will be an interoperability issue now and in the future.

 

We can use the convention for new attributes and just add a note to explain we have adopted that convention for new attributes definitions after EML version 4.

 

JR  

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Spencer [mailto:paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk]
Sent: 15 November 2006 09:18
To: John Borras; David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: eml
Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

 

I agree.

 

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 15 November 2006 09:13
To: Paul Spencer; David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: eml
Subject: Re: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

David

 

As far as I am aware we have received no complaints about our current approach so why change just for the sake of it.  Let's keep to our current approach and only change in the future if we are pressurised to do so, and then we can make it plain why we are changing and what the consequences are.
 

Regards
John
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----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Spencer <paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>
To: David RR Webber (XML) <david@drrw.info>
Cc: eml <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, 13 November, 2006 9:41:04 PM
Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

David,

 

You are right - many people use lower camel case for attributes, but the UK NDR was written before that became a convention (largely through the ebXML work). We discussed changing some time back and decided against it. We should keep to a single convention for EML. That means either changing all the existing attributes (and putting up with the flak from those who have already implemented systems) or sticking to the convention for new ones.

 

Anyone else have a view?

 

Regards

 

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 13 November 2006 20:02
To: Paul Spencer
Cc: John Borras
Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

Paul,

 

Just had a quick whip thru this - NDR stuff.

 

I'd used lowercase camel for attributes - since that's a convention lot of people follow.

 

I'll have to look at the other names - I thought I had the upper camel there - unless there's a suffix type missing?

 

Thanks, DW

 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd
From: "Paul Spencer" <paul.spencer@boynings.co.uk>
Date: Mon, November 13, 2006 10:45 am
To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <david@drrw.info>, "eml"
<election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>

David,

 

I really need to see the changes you make to the core to see the final results. I can't really comment directly on these US-centric changes at the moment as they are outside my experience.

 

In terms of the naming conventions, we have been using the UK Government NDR at http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/documents/schema-guidelines-3_1(1).pdf. This affects various of the names you have used. We might as well be consistent.

 

Regards

 

Paul

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 11 November 2006 00:06
To: eml
Subject: [election-services] Revised EML 330 - Election List xsd

Team,

 

I've just spent some hours getting the EML 330 updated for V5.0 - based on the requested changes from IEEE P1612 to support pollbook handling.

 

I've uploaded this to the TC documents section here:

 

What takes the time is just finding existing type declarations and then hooking those into the new element, and extending it with additional attributes as needed - and getting the schema editor to check it is OK.

 

Anyway - please take a look.  You will find the top of the schema now has a comments section that calls out the changes added - elements and attributes.  Everything else is from v4.0 - I've not had to change those base schema includes to do this - aim is to re-use v4.0 as much as possible here.

 

Hopefully everyone concurs on the approach - I don't want to do the remaining changes before I've made sure I'm headed in the right direction first!

 

If everyone is happy with this - then I'll work on the other ones - hopefully this will move a bit faster now I've got one done!   I'm estimating I have another 5 or 6 to do to catch all the changes that have been asked for.

 

Thanks, DW

 


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