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Subject: Re: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded


Yeah...I agree.  My thought was that we could add the "extension" fields within the subcategories so at least they would be tied to something tangible...
Don McGarry
The MITRE Corp.
dmcgarry@mitre.org
(315) 838-2669 Office
(703) 595-9375 Cell
Sent via Blackberry

----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Tincher <ltincher@evotecinc.com>
To: McGarry, Donald P.; emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org <emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tue Jul 13 20:29:02 2010
Subject: RE: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List (EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded

It seems to be a common theme in all the areas where a "list" is included in
the standard.  I suggested we place a <Parameter> value (as defined in CAP)
in key areas to allow for some ad-hoc additions with the thought that we
could expand each list with known attributes, but each disaster/incident is
sure to turn up some special needs we haven't calculated.

There was some major concern that the stakeholders who worked so hard to
come to a consensus on these lists may not like this at all.  If you couple
that with the thought that "loosening" up the standard that much may cause
confusion and may not even represent a concise standard - well it all means
we need to think long and hard about this and reach out as far as we can to
get some SME's to help us vet the ideas....

Please look at the Draft Meeting notes from today....

Thanks,
Lee

Those who cannot hear an angry shout may strain to hear a whisper - Leonard
Nimoy


-----Original Message-----
From: McGarry, Donald P. [mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:08 PM
To: 'ltincher@evotecinc.com'; 'emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: Re: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List
(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded

Haha...well at least we are on the same page!  I found this to be the case
with facilitystatus as well (no clear way to represent an internal
disaster).  One other thing is representing services that are not a capacity
type...I.e. this facility has CT, Trauma Services, STEMI, Stroke team.  This
wouldn't give the status of that service, nor would it give a capacity for
that service, just communicate the fact that the facility "supports" or is
"certified" for it...
Don McGarry
The MITRE Corp.
dmcgarry@mitre.org
(315) 838-2669 Office
(703) 595-9375 Cell
Sent via Blackberry

----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Tincher <ltincher@evotecinc.com>
To: McGarry, Donald P.; emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org
<emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tue Jul 13 19:37:41 2010
Subject: RE: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List
(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded

This is hilarious!  We spent nearly the whole meeting discussing this and
decided to table it until you could chime in....there are some very
interesting issues around this and I look forward to getting this problem
resolved...

All - I did not speak to Don about this at all before he sent the email...

Thanks,
Lee 

Those who cannot hear an angry shout may strain to hear a whisper - Leonard
Nimoy


-----Original Message-----
From: McGarry, Donald P. [mailto:dmcgarry@mitre.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:55 PM
To: 'ltincher@evotecinc.com'; 'emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: Re: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List
(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded

All-
Sorry I was unable to join today.  In fact I am working on a field
deployment for HAVE as we speak.  In addition to the structure of the
bedcapacity status being broken as already brought up I have found that
there really needs to be extensibility added to the servicecoveragestatus
section.  I think this jives with Lee's findings but as I started to examine
some really key services (CT, STEMI Team, Stroke Team, etc.) It is really a
shoehorn to stick these into just a single boolean for a more generic
service like cardio or neuro.  I think to make this work for now I'm going
to have to add a list of string bool pairs into the standard to make this
work.  Any other thoughts?
Don McGarry
The MITRE Corp.
dmcgarry@mitre.org
(315) 838-2669 Office
(703) 595-9375 Cell
Sent via Blackberry

----- Original Message -----
From: ltincher@evotecinc.com <ltincher@evotecinc.com>
To: emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org
<emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Tue Jul 13 16:50:15 2010
Subject: [emergency-have] Groups - Draft - HAVE Issues List
(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) uploaded

The document revision named Draft - HAVE Issues List
(EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls) has been submitted by Lee Tincher to the EM
HAVE SC document repository.  This document is revision #3 of
EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls.

Document Description:
List of issues to be considered from HAVE 1.0

View Document Details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=38630

Download Document:  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38630/EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList
_v1.0.xls

Revision:
This document is revision #3 of EDXL_HAVE_IssuesList_v1.0.xls.  The
document details page referenced above will show the complete revision
history.


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