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Subject: Re: [emergency-have] HAVE 2.0 - Data Dictionary


That is right. A new work wrt naming.  It is a 2.0 version though if that matters at this point.  We will be requesting the templates, etc and should pol rivalry do that now.  Thanks

Elysa Jones
iPhone 

On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org> wrote:

Sorry, I should have been more clear. It appears to me that the current EDXL-HAVE published content is in http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/v1.0/emergency_edxl_have-1.0.html. That is an OASIS Standard with Approved Errata. 

So I assume that this would be a new Committee Specification Draft that would supersede this one? 

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Elysa Jones <elysajones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Chet,

 

This is not at all a new work.  This evolved from a 1.0 that was used in Haiti after the earthquake.  Lessons learned and other inputs were gathered into a working draft of 2.0 that has been in development for over a year.  The working draft, aka WD09 has been used in experiments and field trials.  We are anxious to get this in hands of implementers because it is so much improved over the 1.0.  We are not asking to bypass any process as we will have a fully developed draft ready for EM-TC review and vote in the next few weeks. 

 

The question asked of you here is whether we are ok to use this method of generating the data dictionary for both expediency and correctness.  It does not fit the normal OASIS template we use and need your guidance in that regard.

 

Thanks,

 

Elysa Jones, Chair OASIS

Emergency Management Technical Committee

Emergency Interoperability Member Section

 

 

 

From: emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Chet Ensign
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:50 PM
To: Darrell O'Donnell
Cc: Elysa Jones; HAVE SC
Subject: Re: [emergency-have] HAVE 2.0 - Data Dictionary

 

Elysa, Darrell, let me just be sure I understand your objective here. 

 

The potential social / healthcare benefit is not lost on me so you have no selling to do on that score. I read "The Hot Zone" years ago. Ebola is ample justification for swift action. 

 

If I understand what you want to do, your goal is to approve and publish a Committee Spec Draft of the EDXL-HAVE Data Dictionary as fast as possible so that people have a public version of this refined spec to apply to the Ebola outbreak. 

 

- Is this a brand new work product? Looking at http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/ I don't find anything comparable so I am guessing it is. 

 

- Do you simply want to get it online as an approved CSD of some kind (details we need to work out) or do you also want to move it forward into public review? 

 

Thanks for your answers. I'm just trying to sort out in my mind how we can best accomplish this. 

 

Best, 

 

/chet

 

 

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Darrell O'Donnell <darrell.odonnell@continuumloop.com> wrote:

Chet - as a consideration we can also generate a detailed and interactive HTML version of the schema. Here is an example that I generated from our working draft: http://oasis-edxl-have-v2.0-wd.s3.amazonaws.com/edxl-have-v2.0-wd.html

 

cheers,

 

Darrell

 


 

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Darrell O'Donnell, P.Eng.

OASIS Member (volunteer) - www.oasis-open.org 

OASIS EM-TC - Member

OASIS EM-TC HAVE SC - Co-Chair

 


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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Elysa Jones <elysajones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Chet,

 

Please review this process for an auto-generated data dictionary.  We are working diligently to get a PR draft out for HAVE given the interest due to the Ebola situation.  This method would save us time as well as minimize/eliminate the common mistakes made when it is done manually. 

 

Thanks,

 

Elysa Jones, Chair OASIS

Emergency Management Technical Committee

Emergency Interoperability Member Section

 

Elysa

 

 

From: emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:emergency-have@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Darrell O'Donnell
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:00 AM
To: HAVE SC
Cc: Chet Ensign
Subject: [emergency-have] HAVE 2.0 - Data Dictionary

 

Folks - as we discussed in the EDXL-HAVE SC meeting this afternoon we would like to use a different format for the Data Dictionary section of the standards document.

 

I have CC'ed Chet Ensign from the TC Admin as per Elysa's recommendation. 

 

The approach that I recommend and that we agreed upon was to use an auto-generated document that is driven from the data in our XML Schema. This would mean that there should be no errors (barring a software glitch in OxygenXML) but there are a couple of issues to consider:

 

1. I can't generate a Word-compatible version so we can't cut and paste the content into the .docx standard file. I proposed that we would include the full PDF (sample attached) as an appendix and reference it in the Data Dictionary. This would need approval from the TC Admin for the format. 

 

2. There may be come formatting issues. If you look at the attached PDF, there are a few images that go beyond the page (e.g. see page 8). We can make a fully browse-able website version available too though - it doesn't have that problem. 

 

Here is a screenshot comparing a draft (ignore the highlights on the left side please) with the normal table and the generated XML Schema documentation on the right. I believe all of the fields and information that we need is there and it includes a pretty good diagram.

 

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We'll have the ERM diagram as well (thanks to Patti!) and the rest is coming along well.

 

Thanks a ton for the great meeting. I'll send out the draft minutes in a moment.

 

cheers,

 

Darrell

 


 

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Darrell O'Donnell, P.Eng.

OASIS Member (volunteer) - www.oasis-open.org 

OASIS EM-TC - Member

OASIS EM-TC HAVE SC - Co-Chair

 


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