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Subject: Re: Jon Skeels response


I'll add it to the agenda but we may not get to 
it other than scheduling another time to take it up in detail.  Thanks, Elysa

At 10:28 AM 1/8/2007, Timothy Grapes wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have had a couple more communications with Jon 
>over the holidays.  Below is his latest 
>response, which I have not yet responded to.  Please review the string.
>
>This is more of an OASIS EM-TC issue to the 
>extent that we may choose to engage.  No one can 
>make ROSS adopt and implement EDXL 
>standards.  But, we may choose to schedule a 
>meeting between select OASIS EM-TC members and 
>his team to attempt some education and help to bridge the gap.
>
>Elysa, I don't know whether there is time on 
>tomorrows wall to touch on this.  Otherwise we 
>may want to schedule a brief call to discuss
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Skeels [mailto:jskeels@fs.fed.us]
>Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:43 PM
>To: tgrapes@evotecinc.com
>Cc: Tim Grapes
>Subject: Re: Let me know a time this week
>
>Tim:  Sorry for not getting back with you sooner.  I have been off for the
>holidays.
>
>The situation with us is that we fully intended to support the Distribution
>Element.  In the end, we had to defer this work as it would take more
>effort then the funding and time then we have available.  Another issue we
>have been faced with is that we are doing 2 way communication with other
>systems, and they (the other systems are not developed using the EDXL
>standard.  We do intend to eventually incorporate the distribution element
>into our services, but funding may be a factor.
>
>In regards to the Resource Messaging Specification, we are so far along
>with our work with the State of California and other groups, that meeting
>that standard will likely be tough.  We will soon be done with the services
>that we will be using with the State of California CAD Systems.  I have
>listed a few of the services we are developing below.  Once we are done, we
>will provide you with more details on them.
>
>createIncident (inbound to ROSS)
>UpdateIncidentDetails (inbound to ROSS)
>createResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>fillResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>placeResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>getResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>utfResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>notifyResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>cancelResourceRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>createIncidentRequestandPlace (inbound to ROSS)
>createRequestandPlace (inbound to ROSS)
>createIncidentRequestandFill (inbound to ROSS)
>createRequestandFill (inbound to ROSS)
>createIncidentandRequest (inbound to ROSS)
>getIncidentsRequestsByStatus (inbound to ROSS)
>getIncidentAndRequests (inbound to ROSS)
>releaseResource (inbound to ROSS)
>updateResourceTravel (inbound to ROSS)
>updateResourceAvailability (inbound to ROSS)
>buildMasterRoster (inbound to ROSS)
>createResourceRequestNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>placeResourceRequestNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>ResourceRequestOperationNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>UpdateResourceRequestDetailsNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>UpdateResourceAssignmentNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>UpdateResourceKeyNotification (outbound from ROSS)
>
>
>Jon
>
>*************************************************************************
>Jon C. Skeels, PMP
>Senior Project Manager
>WO-Fire & Aviation Staff
>Information Systems Project Office
>USDA Forest Service
>740 Simms St
>Golden, CO 80401
>
>jskeels@fs.fed.us
>Phone: 303-236-0630
>Fax:     303-236-5221
>Cell:    303-902-1897
>**************************************************************************
>
>
>
>
>
>              tgrapes@evotecinc
>              .com
>                                                                         To
>              12/27/2006 02:41          "Jon Skeels" <jskeels@fs.fed.us>
>              PM                                                         cc
>                                        "Tim Grapes"
>                                        <tgrapes@evotecinc.com>
>                                                                    Subject
>                                        Re: Let me know a time this week
>
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>Jon,
>It would be helpful to know what version of each standard you are
>referring to.  Some are still undergoing improvements through the OASIS
>process and have not yet been formally published.
>
>- The Common Alerting Protocol (CAP 1.1) is a publicly available standard
>- The EDXL Distribution Element (DE 1.0 is also a publicly available
>standard.
>- The EDXL Hospital Availability Exchange (HAVE) was published for 60-day
>public comment.  You received a notice of that, and it would be very
>helpful if you could submit any comments you have through the OASIS
>process
>- EDXL Resource Messaging is undergoing heavy vetting and enhancement in
>the OASIS TC.  It is expected to be published in mid-January for 60-day
>public comment.  Again, your formal comments at that time would be
>extremely valuable.
>
>Thanks - I am on vacation now and back in action on Tuesday.  Have a Happy
>New Year.
>
>Tim
>
> > Tim:  Sorry not to have gotten back with you sooner.  In regards to my
> > concerns about EDXL, I have transmitted the standards to Lockheed for
> > review and comparison with what we have actually done.  I have asked them
> > to give me an assessment as to if the EDXL Standard works or doesn't.  I
> > have ask for the reasons why it won't work and if it kind of works, then
> > to
> > provide suggestions for improvement.  When I hear back from them which
> > will
> > be a few weeks, I will advise.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> > Jon C. Skeels, PMP
> > Senior Project Manager
> > WO-Fire & Aviation Staff
> > Information Systems Project Office
> > USDA Forest Service
> > 740 Simms St
> > Golden, CO 80401
> >
> > jskeels@fs.fed.us
> > Phone: 303-236-0630
> > Fax:     303-236-5221
> > Cell:    303-902-1897
> >
>**************************************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >              "Tim Grapes"
> >              <tgrapes@evotecin
> >              c.com>
>To
> >                                        "'Jon Skeels'" <jskeels@fs.fed.us>
> >              12/04/2006 05:57
>cc
> >              AM
> >
>Subject
> >                                        Let me know a time this week
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey John,
> > Sorry I missed your call on Friday.  I appreciate you following up with
> > details, but it would be helpful if we could spend a few minutes this
>week
> > on the phone to better understand the implementation issue.  Give me any
> > time thatâs good for you and nd Iâll send a conference line.
>.
> >
> > Actually, this is a perfect time to hear what youâve found â“ input
>put
> > from the
> > field in invaluable.  The OASIS committee is meeting this week Tues
> > through
> > Thursday to work on the Resource Messaging specification together.
> >
> > Weâll work around any time me thatâs good for you.
>.
> > Thanks,
> > Tim Grapes
> > Evolution Technologies, Inc.
> > Department of Homeland Security
> > Science and Technology, C4ISR
> > Office for Interoperability and Compatibility
> > Disaster Management egov Initiative
> > Office:  (703) 654-6075
> > Mobile:  (703) 304-4829
> > tgrapes@evotecinc.com
> >
> >
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