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Subject: Re: [emergency] Draft Reply To PPW Letter

Yup, I can see where Eliot would come to those conclusions without 
having been involved in the meeting.

I don't usually respond when I find nothing to quibble with, and 
<facetious>I believe I have used my annual allotment of unsolicited 
affirmation or praise</facetous> at least for this particular group, 
so I will just say that my reaction is along the same lines as Tom 

However, I still find it somewhat baffling as to why this issue 
remains a hot button, or why we have hot buttons, other than having 
some personalities that grate on each other, and the usual collection 
of non-congruent (as opposed to incongruent) vested interests, but I 
do think that a healthy dose of attending each other's meetings might 
help. But, then, I'm always in favor of liaisoning.

I guess I don't understand why broadcast media would need more than 
having a binary provided or else the basic information from which to 
produce a suitable announcement, which we ought to be able to send if 
it has been generated, with a CAP alert message in a separate 
payload, such as a SOAP attachment or a second message/email 
w/attachment or providing an ftp url where it can be downloaded, all 
of which are as good as, or better than, having it inside the CAP 
payload message as an inline. Or, we can establish a 
broadcast-specific policy of sending the binary via their choice of 
transport, provided there is an available 
Broadcast-and-Specific-Transport-capable agency/facility/company in 
our community which can handle that request.

I don't believe that broadcast needs to do more than announce the 
emergency message to the public with relevant information and basic 
instructions for immediate action if needed, and/or information for 
the public about how to access more specific information in the same 
way that the emergency broadcast system works now.

I don't think broadcast is an acceptable method to be sending CAP 
messages to the Emergency Management community or first responders, 
except if it is the only way that the message can get out, which 
seems somewhat unlikely but not impossible. Broadcast is just not set 
up to be able to be used as a coordinating medium, nor is radio, 
although the public-access cable channels could well serve that 
purpose. Of course, PBS can also be asked to provide more focused 
programming related to a given emergency.

Last note: I don't think of this as a EM TC versus Broadcast problem. 
I just think of it as OUR problem, and I am sure that we can find 
several solutions which provide flexibility in delivering the alerts 
for whole range of our populations, including sight or hearing 
impaired populations, and have them ready. This is one area where the 
department of redundancy department is a good thing.


At 8:04 PM -0400 10/24/03, R. Allen Wyke wrote:
>I apologize for the confusion - I think you might have missed the TC
>call where I updated the group about my chat with them and their request
>for me to summarize our discussion. Then again it was a quick and
>passing update, so it didn't even make it into the minutes. Anyway,
>these were not "my thoughts", but rather part of the summary.
>On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 04:55, Eliot Christian wrote:
>>  I am sorry, Allen, but your letter doesn't make sense to me.
>>  You correctly point out that the TC does not have technical
>>  competence in the area they expressed concern, yet you dive
>>  into your presumption of how the TC is going to solve their
>>  problem. I think you should delete everything pertaining to
>>  your thoughts about a solution. The letter should state the
>>  OASIS process and invite closer collaboration, period.
>>  Eliot
>>  At 11:27 PM 10/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>>  >Attached is the draft reply to PPW. Its only a couple of pages, so it
>>  >should not take a lot of time to review. If at all possible, I would
>>  >love to ship this out to them by the end of the week. If you need more
>  > >time, for any reason at all, then please just email me and let me know.
>>  >
>>  >Allen
>R. Allen Wyke
>Chair, OASIS Emergency Management Technical Committee
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