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Subject: Re: [emergency] IFSC was: RE: [emergency-msg] Any word from Jamie? Notes.

Thanks, Art,

It helps to be able to start getting more specific.


At 9:33 PM -0700 8/16/04, Art Botterell wrote:
>If the TC as a whole finds some version of the "Emergency Data 
>Exchange Language" framework acceptable, that might suggest several 
>specific things the IF SC could take on within layers three and four 
>of that model.  For example... documenting and formalizing the 
>several established mechanisms for moving CAP and other XML messages 
>around... reviewing the "wrapper" format that will be coming in soon 
>from the FEMA/EIC work... and developing a specific strategy for 
>identity management and access control.  (There are also various 
>registry-related ideas pending, but those seem to be more about 
>implementation than about standard development.)
>By the same token, I expect that FEMA/EIC will be proposing a set of 
>messages and an underlying vocabulary (drawing from the GJXDM and 
>various other sources) over the next several months for the 
>Messaging group to work over.  Plus of course there may be both 
>near-term ("1.1") CAP issues and a longer-term ("2.0") integration 
>of CAP into a larger EDXL framework.
>And the GIS team might want to look into how some data models being 
>developed for NGA's "Project Homeland" might be integrated with our 
>eventing / messaging model, and vice versa.  (Their current working 
>draft is available for download in a ZIP file from 
>I do think we may want to consider whether our current subcommittee 
>structure is optimal, but it looks like we could make it work if we 
>choose to preserve it.
>The key to all this, I like to think, is that due in large part to 
>our success with CAP we now have active input from FEMA (and through 
>it, from all of DHS) and from the EIC to guide us on those 
>user-requirements and business-process questions that have held us 
>up in the past.
>- Art
>At 6:21 PM -0700 8/16/04, Kon Wilms wrote:
>>Just to add,
>>Maybe we also should discuss exactly what if anything the IFSC is going
>>to accomplish in the near-term future. Up until this point it has
>>largely been a do-nothing group (not by intentions, but by
>>non-execution). I think it is prime time to give it a good kick in the
>>ass and get some direction or abandon it altogether.
>>My concern is that the longer it continues to produce nothing, the more
>>obvious it will become that it is simply another black-hole standards
>>group that cannot be relied upon to deliver any goods.
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