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Subject: Re: [emergency] PROCESS for the Future (was Re: [emergency] EDXL_DE - Notes from the meeting...)


Art,
This makes perfect sense and should make the process more efficient.  This
is exactly the process sequence we followed developing the draft Resource
Messaging spec :-).

Tim
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On Wed, August 17, 2005 10:26 pm, Rex Brooks said:
> Seems like a good thought to me, Art.
>
> Ciao,
> Rex
>
> At 6:20 PM -0700 8/17/05, Art Botterell wrote:
>>Just a thought on process...
>>
>>We seem to be working on the DE along two
>>not-always-exactly-parallel tracks: the Data Dictionary / Object
>>Model track and the Schema track.  In the future might things be
>>clearer if we were to develop one document at a time and then use it
>>as the basis for the next?
>>Even if that meant we had to iterate based on experience downstream,
>>at least we'd be doing a series of distinct, well-documented
>>iterations.
>>
>>The sequence we used for CAP moved from the broadest to the most
>>specific: 1) requirements and use cases, 2) data model, 3) data
>>dictionary (human readable and discussable), and finally, 4)
>>schema.
>>Each document was a more detailed expression of the previous one,
>>and by the time we got to the schema, the design questions had been
>>resolved and it was basically just a coding task (which as we've
>>seen can be challenging enough.)
>>
>>Doing it the other way around might be possible as well, I suppose.
>>But regardless of what sequence we choose, I'd like to suggest that
>>a "sequential/spiral" process might be more manageable and possibly
>>a bit less confusing than what could turn into a "massively
>>parallel" undertaking as the EDXL family of projects grows.
>>
>>Just a thought...
>>
>>- Art
>>
>>
>>On Aug 17, 2005, at 8/17/05 4:58 PM, Michelle Raymond wrote:
>>
>>>Hmm...
>>>This raises two thoughts:
>>>
>>>1.  If the intent of <explicitAddress> is to provide data that can
>>>lead to delivery of information contained in the <contentObject>, then
>>>it had best be some actionable piece of data.  It really could be an
>>>email address a link to a web form or even a phone number.  However
>>>this raises the question of the type. Currently the type for the
>>><explicitAddress> is xsd:anyUri
>>>
>>>****OOOOHHH! I take that back.  The Data Dictionary has it as a 'uri',
>>>but the schema has it as a 'string' and I go by the rule "The schema
>>>rules trump the documentation, as it is the rules against an instance
>>>will be validated."   (I'll change the Data Dictionary type to match
>>>the schema).
>>>
>>>Well, it still raises the question of type.  How will the processor of
>>>the Distribution Element know what to do with the content of the
>>>string in <explicitAddress>.
>>>
>>>2. I think your suggested documentation for <senderID> is good, and
>>>better used here than in <explicitAddress>.  What it doesn't include
>>>is how we may 'understand' the sender's identification from the
>>><senderID> string.  The use of the domain-name extension gives us a
>>>partial resolution to that understanding.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Michelle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/17/05, Kon Wilms <kon@datacast.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 16:58 -0500, Michelle Raymond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Proposal: Leave the definition as "Unique identifier of the sender."
>>>>>Modify the comments to reflect this is not a formal "email address".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why not just make the definition the same as explicitAddress, but for
>>>>senders and not recipients, i.e.:
>>>>
>>>>>Definition  The unique identifier of the sender.
>>>>>Comments  Uniquely identifies human parties, systems, services, or
>>>>>devices that are all potential senders of the distribution message.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cheers
>>>>Kon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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