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Subject: RE: [emergency] Emergency Management Vocabulary alignments?


Rich is correct - some EDXL messages were the first non-Justice content
entered into NIEM, before harmonization processes were defined.  At that
time, (to our surprise) the messages were broken apart and the elements put
in the EM domain as well as in core.  That's when we realized NIEM wasn't
addressing standard messages.  The content is now old and incorrect (to what
degree I don't know).

Since that time (2 years ago) there has been no governance, process or
funding to deal with this.  Though we forwarded a detailed proposal with
DHS-OIC and NIEM for EDXL alignment (EDXL consume and maintain NIEM as a
common data dictionary), I don't think it has moved forward.  That proposal
called for evolution into NIEM-compliant EDXL messaging standards through
re-use of NIEM data dictionary components, which are then evaluated as NIMS
“approved” messaging standards.  The intended result is grant language and
program alignment such that implementation of EDXL messaging standards by
any entity results in the sending and receiving system deemed as NIMS, NIEM,
OIC-program and OASIS compatible.  

Thanks,

Tim Grapes
Evolution Technologies, Inc.
Office:  (703) 654-6075
Mobile:  (703) 304-4829
tgrapes@evotecinc.com
http://www.evotecinc.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Vandame, Richard [mailto:Richard.Vandame@dhs.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:08 AM
To: David RR Webber (XML); emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [emergency] Emergency Management Vocabulary alignments?

If I remember correctly, EDXL information was entered into NIEM sometime
back.  Some of it is incorrect, but no one was able to get it changed.

Anyone else?

Rich

Richard Vandame
Program Specialist
Standards & Technology Branch
Incident Management Systems Integration Division
DHS/FEMA
office: 202-646-7666
BB: 202-412-9072
richard.vandame@dhs.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: emergency-return-829-Richard.Vandame=dhs.gov@lists.oasis-open.org
[mailto:emergency-return-829-Richard.Vandame=dhs.gov@lists.oasis-open.or
g] On Behalf Of David RR Webber (XML)
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:27 AM
To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emergency] Emergency Management Vocabulary alignments?

I just found out that the NIEM V2.0 has a whole domain for Emergency
Management that supports the National Incident-Based Reporting System
(NIBRS).

You can use NIEM online tools to explore these:

 http://ncsconline.org/niemwayfarer  (best)

and also

 http://niem.gtri.gatech.edu/niemtools/ssgt/SSGT-SearchSubmit.iepd

There's a whole raft of information for emergency stuff - that we have -
that is duplicative - such as vehicle, bed, etc.

I see others have already been here ahead of me.

So for example we have bed, vehicle, etc information - searching in
Wayfarer shows those. 

Bed search results:

Matching Elements	
em:AdditionalCapacity24HrQuantity
em:AdditionalCapacity72HrQuantity
em:AvailableQuantity
em:BaselineQuantity
em:BedCapacity
em:BedCategoryCode
em:Capacity
em:CapacityStatusCode

Obviously we also have these in our schema.

Now of course the NIEM is a giant boat anchor of a XSD fur ball.

However - I could see the case for aligning to the dictionary - so that
names/definitions are equivalent - so you have published 100%
correspondence for interoperability.

This may be as simple as producing a spreadsheet with OASIS item and
then the NIEM equivalent item... have we done that already?

Of course one may want to create subset schema that include only those
definitions extracted from the NIEM xsd fur ball - and built as a
standalone xsd that is maintained independently thru OASIS.

Is that essential what we have done?

Thoughts?

Just coming up the learning curve here!

Thanks, DW

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