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Subject: Re: [emergency] Fwd: Re: [CAP] Need advice on FIPS code to Polygon conversion


Interesting -

This is definitely a GIS/Geospatial type of discussion. To start the
discussion, I would suggest that the geometries be encoded as GML and not
SHAPE files. I would also look at a general solution for providing a
registry of geometries for any theme (not just FIPS codes). Two reasons
for the above statements: 1.) CAP is an International standard and not
just US and 2.) the INSPIRE directive in Europe mandates the use of
de-jure standards and GML is an ISO standard (Shape files are not).

More to follow on the use of Gazetteers as a registry of geometry resources.

Carl


I would encourage>
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>>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:14:19 -0400
>>From: Bob Bunge <Robert.Bunge@noaa.gov>
>>To: Art Botterell <ABott@so.cccounty.us>
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>>Subject: Re: [CAP] Need advice on FIPS code to Polygon conversion
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>>Art,
>>
>>We can certainly consider it.  NWS certainly doesn't have the
>>resources to do the QC and there would certainly be some benefit for
>>it.  To make it more interesting, in addition to US counties, NWS
>>also needs something of this sort for both the NWS forecast and fire
>>weather zones - both are used to define boundaries of various NWS alerts.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>Art Botterell wrote:
>>>Particularly since we're going to be dealing with FIPS codes for however
>>>long SAME coding remains in use for Weather Radio and EAS, the idea of
>>>accumulating and publishing a standard library of simplified polygons
>>>for each of them strikes me as making a great deal of sense.
>>>Bob, assuming such a collection existed, do you think NWS might be
>>>willing to publish it along with the various shapefiles and such on your
>>>website?
>>>- Art
>>>
>>>Art Botterell, Manager
>>>Community Warning System
>>>Contra Costa County Office of the Sheriff
>>>50 Glacier Drive
>>>Martinez, California 94553
>>>(925) 313-9603
>>>fax (925) 646-1120
>>>
>>>>>>Mick Jagger <lists@jpw.biz> 9/14/2008 4:34 PM >>>
>>>>What's needed... and I'm sure somebody knows an efficient way to do
>>>
>>>>this... is a tool to take full-resolution GIS polygons and simplify
>>>
>>>Here is a link that discusses this process along with a commercial tool
>>>and free tool to do it.
>>>http://freegeographytools.com/2007/simplifying-line-and-polygon-shapefiles
>>>  There are a number of other simplification methods also.  I've done
>>>some simplification of polygons reducing multi-thousand point polygons
>>>down to under 100 for CAP alerts.  While the simplification cuts down on
>>>the amount of work required, I found there was still a lot of manual
>>>cleanup that needed to take place.  Checking that too much
>>>simplification didn't omit a section, making sure adjoining polygon
>>>areas match up by the same points, etc.
>>>If there was enough interest, a common resource site for warning
>>>polygons could be setup with the manual cleanup work broken down into
>>>small work units that people could chip in to help cleanup in their
>>>"spare" time.
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