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Subject: RE: [emergency] Would a webinar make sense for everyone on NIEM,EDXL and CAM?

I would really benefit from attending that.
Just my $0.02.

Don McGarry

Senior Sensors Systems Engineer

The MITRE Corp.

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From: David RR Webber (XML) [david@drrw.info]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:44 AM
To: Gary Ham
Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Timothy Grapes'; 'Lee Tincher'
Subject: [emergency] Would a webinar make sense for everyone on NIEM, EDXL and CAM?

It suddenly hit me - I'm doing a presentation today internally here on developing IEPDs and the CAM toolkit - and I'm also scheduled to present this at the NIEM expo' in Baltimore in September.

What I think makes sense is for me to use the free Adobe webinar service that OASIS has to show this same slide deck - but morphed to EDXL HAVE.

I think we'll all be on the same page then - and I can show you all the details much more easily than trying to explain it in email!  One hour probably equals 1000 emails!

If we schedule this for a couple of weeks time - depending on peoples availability...?

Thanks, DW

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary alignment?
From: "Gary Ham" <hamgva@cox.net>
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009 7:15 am
To: "'David RR Webber (XML)'" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org>, "'Timothy Grapes'"
<tgrapes@evotecinc.com>, "'Lee Tincher'" <ltincher@evotecinc.com>

My understanding of the IEPD process is that a wantlist is required only for brand new elements.  Reuse of an approved external standard does not require a wantlist. In fact it would be confusing because it would appear that we are submitting individual HAVE elements for inclusion in the NIEM vice HAVE as a whole. The wantlist is for LOCAL data structures that have not been standardized and need to be. We do not have to create a wantlist for the HAVE standard.  Just get it approved as an external standard and define a NIEM adapter.
You may be confused because the subschema generator uses the same “wantlist” format for storing the items you need out of NIEM prior to generating the one ore more subset schemas that you build in order back the specific (separately name spaced) reference schema that you use for your exchange schema.  But, you do not need to submit a “wantlist” separately for elements that the subschema generator can build for you. Just for the new stuff. And approved external standards are not new stuff. In fact, the HAVE schema with its adapter is actually just another subset schema as far as the IEPD process goes.
The larger question is alignment of our RIM with NIEM, which is a RIM of its own.  We may need to think about something there, because there could be value in aligning basic constructs. But my warning is simple:  “there be monsters lurking!!!!”  It is not simple at all.

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