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Subject: Re: [emergency] Would a webinar make sense for everyone on NIEM,EDXL and CAM?

If there's insufficient time for the TC to schedule a presentation, I 
can suggest it for the EM-RIM SC as a way to integrate our thinking 
wrt NIEM.


At 7:44 AM -0700 7/15/09, David RR Webber \(XML\) wrote:
>It suddenly hit me - I'm doing a presentation today internally here 
>on developing IEPDs and the CAM toolkit - and I'm also scheduled to 
>present this at the NIEM expo' in Baltimore in September.
>What I think makes sense is for me to use the free Adobe webinar 
>service that OASIS has to show this same slide deck - but morphed to 
>I think we'll all be on the same page then - and I can show you all 
>the details much more easily than trying to explain it in email! 
> One hour probably equals 1000 emails!
>If we schedule this for a couple of weeks time - depending on 
>peoples availability...?
>Thanks, DW
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL HAVE and NIEM 2.1 dictionary alignment?
>From: "Gary Ham" <hamgva@cox.net>
>Date: Wed, July 15, 2009 7:15 am
>To: "'David RR Webber (XML)'" <david@drrw.info>
>Cc: <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org>, "'Timothy Grapes'"
><tgrapes@evotecinc.com>, "'Lee Tincher'" <ltincher@evotecinc.com>
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>My understanding of the IEPD process is that a wantlist is required 
>only for brand new elements.  Reuse of an approved external standard 
>does not require a wantlist. In fact it would be confusing because 
>it would appear that we are submitting individual HAVE elements for 
>inclusion in the NIEM vice HAVE as a whole. The wantlist is for 
>LOCAL data structures that have not been standardized and need to 
>be. We do not have to create a wantlist for the HAVE standard.  Just 
>get it approved as an external standard and define a NIEM adapter.
>You may be confused because the subschema generator uses the same 
>"wantlist" format for storing the items you need out of NIEM prior 
>to generating the one ore more subset schemas that you build in 
>order back the specific (separately name spaced) reference schema 
>that you use for your exchange schema.  But, you do not need to 
>submit a "wantlist" separately for elements that the subschema 
>generator can build for you. Just for the new stuff. And approved 
>external standards are not new stuff. In fact, the HAVE schema with 
>its adapter is actually just another subset schema as far as the 
>IEPD process goes.
>The larger question is alignment of our RIM with NIEM, which is a 
>RIM of its own.  We may need to think about something there, because 
>there could be value in aligning basic constructs. But my warning is 
>simple:  "there be monsters lurking!!!!"  It is not simple at all.
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