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Subject: Re: [emergency] RE: DE versus ATOM

To add to the mix.

Actually, Atom/Atom Pub can be used in very interesting applications.

Check out the OGC® Loosely Coupled Synchronization of Geographic Databases
in the Canadian Geospatial Data Infrastructure Pilot

From the preface:

This <OGC> Discussion Paper documents results from the Interoperability
Program CGDI Pilot and describes a suite of services that enable the
sharing of geographic information across organizations for the purposes
of: geographic database synchronization in support of a spatial data
infrastructure; geographic database modification suggestions from trusted
and un-trusted sources; and the transmission of geographic information in
emergency notification events.

These services are called the Update Feed Service; Feedback Feed Service;
and Emergency Alert Service respectively. Their information encodings are
all based on the Atom Syndication Format, extended with GML and WFS Filter
encodings to support geospatial requirements, and were implemented in the
Canadian Geospatial Data Infrastructure Pilot.



> A little follow-up from our guys...
> Several of our EDXL standards are tailored for the DE and ATOM does not
> offer all of the needed elements to support this.  So ATOM used in place
> of
> DE may be contra indicated by the IETF Standard (IETF proposed standard in
> RFC 4287).  It can be used as an extension; but with deprecated
> functionally
> and could not be robust as using the DE.  Most of the tools for ATOM seem
> to
> be tailored for XML to RSS delivery.  Could see a scenario where ATOM is a
> ContentObject in the DE to facilitate RSS and the use of those tools
> though....
> Thanks,
> Tim Grapes
> Evotec
> "The only thing we take into the next life is our character"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Grapes [mailto:tgrapes@evotecinc.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:22 PM
> To: 'Jacob Westfall'; rexb@starbourne.com
> Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Lee Tincher'
> Subject: RE: DE versus ATOM
> Hi Jacob,
> I  have not but am glad you have reached out about this.  I believe this
> is
> an appropriate topic to ask of the EM-TC, and I ask that Lee T. also
> comment
> whether he has come across Atom in his dealings with other standards
> implementers.
> Thanks,
> Tim Grapes
> Evotec
> "The only thing we take into the next life is our character"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Westfall [mailto:jake@jpw.biz]
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:19 PM
> To: rexb@starbourne.com
> Cc: tgrapes@evotecinc.com
> Subject: DE versus ATOM
> Hi,
> 	I've had a couple technical discussions with some people about using
> the DE versus the Atom format/protocol.  Their comments were that Atom
> offers a lot of what the DE does and that there are more tools and
> experience for Atom.  I started coming around to their comments and
> wondered
> if the DE itself is facing an uphill battle for adoption.  I wanted to ask
> if you've run into this comparison and how the DE would differentiate
> itself?  Thanks,
> --
> jake@jpw.biz
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