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Subject: Re: [emergency] RE: EDXL-HAVE spec questions
Thanks Mary for the comment. The TC will be addressing this situation right away. Elysa At 10:57 AM 3/1/2010, Mary McRae wrote: >I'm afraid that as TC Administrator I must jump >in here. There were no changes made to the >schema as part of the Errata (that is, no new >copy of schema files were delivered as part of >the errata review or called out in the review >notice); in fact, changing the schema would, in >the vast majority of cases, be a substantive >change and therefore require a new version of >the specification be produced, rather than an errata. > >Examples are non-normative; the schema itself >was not incorporated into the specification, so >only the standalone version exists. > >Whatever changes you make and deliver it must be >noted that they are not in conformance with the >specification as it currently exists, but that >(hopefully) the TC will be taking the necessary >action to rectify the problems that have been discovered. > >Regards, > >Mary > > >Mary P McRae >Director, Standards Development >Technical Committee Administrator >OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society >email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >web: www.oasis-open.org >twitter: @fiberartisan #oasisopen >phone: 1.603.232.9090 > >Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open. > > > >On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:41 AM, ltincher@evotecinc.com wrote: > > > I am not at a computer right now - but I cannot stress enough that this is > > NOT about the examples. The SChema no longer allows Triage Codes the way > > they are outlined in the spec.... > > > > Thanks, > > Lee > > > >> Elysa, This illustrates why it is a very bad idea to put example XML in > >> the specification. Sigh. OASIS needs to stop doing this - and make > >> examples external to the document - in the same way as XSD artifacts are. > >> Please tell them to go with what the xsd Schema is telling them the XML > >> should be - and NOT the specification examples. On their second point - > >> Bed capacities - I too had puzzled over a good way to use this. I agree > >> with their call to use only BedType and ignore SubCategoryBedType. It > >> may help them to quickly load the EDXL schema into the CAM toolkit > >> (sourceforge.net/projects/camprocessor) and then generate XML examples and > >> documentation - so they can construct the exchange XML that they need. > >> ===================================================== "It only allows > >> zero or more elements, followed by zero or more elements, followed by > >> zero or more elements. > >> > >> I can't figure out how to properly represent or interpret bed capacities > >> in this structure. Can you advise on the correct method? If it is true > >> that this just doesn't work as intended, should we decide to use only and > >> avoid the use of in the EDXL-HAVE Haiti Profile?" > >> Thanks, DW -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [emergency] RE: EDXL-HAVE spec questions > >> From: Elysa Jones > >> Date: Mon, March 01, 2010 8:29 am > >> To: "Lee Tincher" ,"'Ka-Ping Yee'" > >> , "'Bill Lang'" > >> Cc: "'Roni Zeiger'" , "'Martin Omander'" > >> , ,"'Gusty, Denis'" > >> , "'William Kalin'" > >> > >> Sukumar, as editor of HAVE, can you respond to this ASAP? I'm less > >> concerned about "process" at this time than getting these folks what they > >> need to be able to exchange HAVE messages in Hati. Please respond. Elysa > >> > >> At 06:14 AM 3/1/2010, Lee Tincher wrote: > >> > >> Ka-Ping, > >> > >> You are correct in all points on the new Errata. I have been in contact > >> with OASIS to get this clarified/fixed ASAP. The PR4 errata does not have > >> many of these errors (but has some other ones) > >> > >> All we need this clarified as soon as we can this is excessively > >> important to the success of HAVE in the Haiti response. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lee > >> > >> Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the > >> public and have no self. - Cyril Connolly > >> > >> From: Ka-Ping Yee [ mailto:kpy@google.com] > >> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:27 AM > >> To: Lee Tincher; Bill Lang > >> Cc: Roni Zeiger; Martin Omander > >> Subject: EDXL-HAVE spec questions > >> > >> Hello Lee, > >> I've run into a couple of problems with the EDXL specification, and was > >> hoping you could help out? > >> > >> This is the document I'm using: > >> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/os/emergency_edxl_have-1.0-spec-os.pdf > >> > >> (This is the link listed at > >> http://www.oasis-open.org/specs/index.php#edxlhave.) > >> > >> And this is the XSD schema I'm using: > >> http://docs.oasis-open.org/emergency/edxl-have/os/edxl-have-os.xsd > >> > >> > >> > >> First, a few things that look like simple typos in the EDXL-HAVE example > >> document (Appendix A): > >> > >> 1. The element seems to be in the wrong order. According to the schema, > >> it seems it should appear between and , not after . Can you confirm? > >> > >> 2. The example has a element, but there is no such XML element in the > >> schema. According to the schema, it seems that and should be immediate > >> children of . Can you confirm? > >> > >> 3. The example has a element, but there is no such XML element in the > >> schema. According to the schema, it seems that and should be immediate > >> children of . Can you confirm? > >> > >> 4. The example has a element, which I assume is a typographic error and > >> should be . Can you confirm? > >> > >> > >> Second, though, a more concerning problem with the BedCapacity section > >> (Section 3.2.4): > >> > >> The text, and example 1, suggest that the element should contain a (, ) > >> pair, followed by any number of (, ) pairs. > >> > >> However, example 1 doesn't validate. The XSD schema doesn't allow for > >> this structure; it only allows zero or more elements, followed by zero or > >> more elements, followed by zero or more elements. > >> > >> I can't figure out how to properly represent or interpret bed capacities > >> in this structure. Can you advise on the correct method? If it is true > >> that this just doesn't work as intended, should we decide to use only and > >> avoid the use of in the EDXL-HAVE Haiti Profile? > >> > >> > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> > >> > >> ­ Ping > >> Technical Lead, Google Person Finder > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > >> generates this mail. 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