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Subject: RE: Quality Product
Yes they do. And I hope they will contribute their SRS to EMIX after their meeting on Friday. <sigh /> But that is half the story. We can use those metrics to describe load in the past tense. We can have quite good off-line contracts specifying penalties and acceptable quality and ... I am wondering how we get it in a format that low quality can be priced differently, and that different kinds of quality problems can move through the market... As I understand the Distribution problem with DER, much of the power sold by the household back to the grid is poor quality. Out of phase is a frequent problem, and one the Utility has to correct. Meanwhile the solar installer gripes about monopolies being reluctant to take their power. With correct pricing distinction, the DER resource would see the incentives to fix the problem; with transparency, the supplier would know why the price was less... "If something is not worth doing, it`s not worth doing well" - Peter Drucker Toby Considine TC9, Inc OASIS Technical Advisory Board TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com -----Original Message----- From: Holmberg, David [mailto:david.holmberg@nist.gov] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:25 AM To: Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT); emix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: Quality Product EIS-A SRS has a section on quality with some parameters. This information is based upon power quality events defined within IEEE 1159-2009. A 298 Service Level Agreement (SLA) between a and an electrical energy provider should be 299 based on an agreed upon number of transients, sags, voltage fluctuations, voltage dips 300 and interruptions, voltage imbalances, power-frequency variations, induced low 301 frequency voltages, and CD in AC networks events defined in the IEEE 1159 standard. 302 A placeholder was added to this information to indicate Quality of Service (QOS), similar 303 to the Availability found in telephony/data systems. In the future we expect the industry 304 to create a metric that defines--"good power", power availability, or Quality of Service. 305 The Power Quality information exchanged across the ESI is defined in Table 2.1. 306 Properties Data Types Units Transients / Billing Period ULong n/a Sags / Billing Period ULong n/a Swells / Billing Period ULong n/a Interruptions / Billing Period ULong n/a Voltage Imbalances / Billing Period ULong n/a power frequency variations / Billing Period ULong n/a Others (See IEEE-1159) / Billing Period ULong n/a Quality of Service PerCent % Table 2.1 Power Quality Information ________________________________________ From: Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT) [Toby.Considine@unc.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:40 AM To: emix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [emix] Quality Product Where does quality fit in Emix? For sake of conversation Restrict Emix to simple Load Leave out the performance classes for a moment Don’t worry about DR. Now we have a simple purchase of 1 KWh of 120 volt 3 phase 60 Hz A/C for one hour. - I can offer it - I can buy it - I can get it - My meter can record it If the voltage sags for five minutes in the middle has it been delivered or not? How about 45 minutes? If it is out of phase has it been delivered or not? How much has it been out of phase? Is a closure event failure to deliver? The answer is of course “It Depends” Or the long form, “It Depends on what’s in the contract” But how do we specify the quality for the contract… tc ________________________________ "If something is not worth doing, it`s not worth doing well" Peter Drucker ________________________________ Toby Considine Chair, OASIS oBIX Technical Committee Co-Chair, OASIS Technical Advisory Board Facilities Technology Office University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu<mailto:Toby.Considine@fac.unc.edu> Phone: (919)962-9073 http://www.oasis-open.org blog: www.NewDaedalus.com
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