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Subject: Re: [emix] EI/EMIX spec wording clarification request


A good way to do this is to create a Jira item in both TCs, and cross reference them.

Then we can address the issues :-)

Anne and Rish - can you enter the issues?

Thanks!

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On 4/4/11 3:14 PM, Anne Hendry wrote:
4D9A188D.1020303@pacbell.net" type="cite"> Fantastic.  It sounds as though there may be a base from which to start.   I assume you're volunteering to be one of that team, then?   ;)   Any other volunteers?

This needs to go to the EI list as well but I don't want to cross post.  Do you want to send a separate email since you know about the previous work from the EI perspective?

-A

Girish Ghatikar wrote, On 4/4/2011 11:51 AM:
BANLkTikQH8YXnB4ve59HmrH3igZx-U4f-w@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Ann,
I like your suggestion. In fact, this was the exercise we'd done some time back and has to be revisited. 
Thanks,
-Rish

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Anne Hendry <ahendry@pacbell.net> wrote:
Yes, I've seen quite a few similar questions go by on both lists (EI and EMIX).  Perhaps there should be a small cross-TC team (maybe a couple of people from each) to hammer this out.

We could really use an architecture diagram.

Perhaps such a team could create one in such a way that either it was two parts, one representing each TC domain and the boundary interfaces showing where/how the two fit together, then we could incorporate each into the respective specs, or one single diagram (similarly clarifying the interfaces) and both TCs could use the same diagram.

Either way, it's something we could use sooner than later.

-A

Ed Cazalet wrote, On 4/3/2011 5:48 AM:

Excellent Point Ann.  We need to use the terminology of messages for EI and EMIX carefully, if at. 

 

On a related point will EI provide messages?  EI has something to do with interactions to convey EMIX Products (incl price).

 

But what is normative in EI? If I use getTransaction instead of requestTransaction with the same EMIX Payload am I violating the EI spec?

 

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From: Anne Hendry [mailto:ahendry@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:06 AM
To: emix@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emix] EI/EMIX spec wording clarification request

 

In the Introduction sections, both  the EI and EMIX specs say they each provide
"... a set of messages to communicate price ... ". 1

To have them both say they provide the same thing blurs the line of where EI stops and EMIX starts.

The terminology could use some clarification/definition.  I'd propose something more along the lines of EMIX providing "an XML vocabulary for communication of Price and Product information", or something similar, to distinguish it from getting into the messaging / communication services context of EI.

Does anyone else have suggestions/opinions on this?  I think we have several issues around clarification of EI/EMIX boundaries so if that is in process perhaps this can be added to the list.  I don't know how those are being tracked since they're between TCs.


-A

1 EMIX wd22 .doc lines 176-177:
"This document defines a set of messages to communicate Price and Product definition for power and energy markets ..."

1 EI wd22 .pdf  line 10:
"Energy Interoperation defines a set of messages to communicate price, reliability, and emergency conditions ..."





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