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Subject: RE: [emix] Tiered Pricing

That table is very useful.

 

That table is (I believe) represented by the attached fragment…

 

tc

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster, and if you stare long into an abyss, the abyss also stares into you."   - Fredrich Nietzche

Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar

TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop

U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee

  

Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com
Phone: (919)619-2104

http://www.tcnine.com/
blog: www.NewDaedalus.com

 

 

From: Bartell, Bruce [mailto:bbartell@xtensible.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:31 PM
To: Toby.Considine@gmail.com; emix@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [emix] Tiered Pricing

 

When defining the problem think of Time of Use Intervals as tiers that encapsulate consumption blocks (which are defined in emix as blockPowerFullRequirements). This is the Zigbee slide in the link I provided.

 

I do not understand enough about what you are proposing to say if it will work. It needs to be reflected in EiQuote somehow. The SE2 Price message I provided does not attempt to get slick with recurrences. They just publish a schedule that looks like above but with dates and times.

 

Bruce Bartell

Xtensible Solutions

Mobile: +1.321.258.6500

bbartell@xtensible.net  |   www.xtensible.net

From: Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Toby Considine
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:13 PM
To: emix@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emix] Tiered Pricing

 

The solution I believe is to use power:blockPowerFullRequirements (which has tiers) inside each interval through the day. In this way we can state what the tiers are for each hour of the day and have the size (of the tiers) and or prices (for each tier) vary within that interval.

 

If we are communicating day-ahead communication of tiers, that is all we need.

 

As a further issue, there may be a desire to template the communications, i.e., to state weekdays vs weekends (assuming they had different price tiers). This we could accomplish by:

1)      Building two unscheduled sequences, as above.

2)      Sending 5 gluons (for M-F) starts referencing one sequence, and two gluons (for Sa-Su) starts.

 

Alternately, one could want to announce that a particular tiered pricing in in place during the summer months. This could be done by a Gluon with two vavailabilitys (weekdays and weekends), and having each vavaialbility reference the appropriate sequence.

 

Do we need more than that?

 

tc

 

 

 

“The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.”
– George Bernard Shaw.

Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar

TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop

U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee

  

Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com
Phone: (919)619-2104

http://www.tcnine.com/
blog: www.NewDaedalus.com

 

 

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								<power:voltage>220</power:voltage>
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	<emix:terms/>
</emix:product>

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