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Subject: RE: WS-Calendar


Title: WS-Calendar

The blog entry is very relevant – those are the guys who are working on it. Cross-time zone behavior is integral to ICalendar-based interactions. The team, led by RPI, includes calendar talent from Apple, Microsoft and Apple. FIX Protocol and ISO 20022 (financial instruments)  folks were very much in presence at the event. The WS component they produce will have a fast track to support by enterprise scheduling systems.

 

I was pleased to have introduced the Calendar Consortium to the ISO 20022 folks. The began talks at the show about adoption / alignment of their work.

 

Version 1.1 of the oBIX is looking forward eagerly to adopting / incorporating the same calendar object. I have long looked toward building systems interacting with enterprise activities and schedules without additional data entry.

 

Think of it, common scheduling between the internet of things and the enterprise, with a common message understandable to

-          Energy

-          Building Systems

-          The Enterprise

-          Finance

 

Of course, the ICAL format implies the ICAL semantics, which are performance based. I should be in that conference room, on that phone call at 9:00 and stay there until 10:00. The conference room should be cooled down by 9:00 and stay cooled down until 10:00. That energy price should be available at 9:00 and until 10:00. I should complete shedding that load by 9:00 and keep that load shed until 10:00.

 

Of course, when scheduling a meeting, all participants are responsible for their own lead times.

 

tc


"A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying ... that he is wiser today than yesterday." -- Jonathan Swift


Toby Considine

Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
Facilities Technology Office
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC

  

Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
Phone: (919)962-9073

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blog: www.NewDaedalus.com

 

 

From: Wilson, David C (St. Paul) [mailto:DavidCWilson@trane.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:52 AM
To: energyinterop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [energyinterop] WS-Calendar

 

I read with interest Toby’s recent post about WS-Calendar as well as his blog entry:

http://www.newdaedalus.com/articles/2009/1/24/coordinating-time-and-energy.html

I saw references to WS-Calendar in the NIST notes as well.  I’m hoping Toby or others can elaborate on what such a specification bring over and above the current data types available from XML Schema.

I can easily picture interval based pricing like the Texas pricing I reviewed with the TC:

-Interval

--StartTime xs:dateTime

--Interval xs:duration

--Price xs:decimal

What would a WS-Calendar specification bring?  Also, will that specification appropriately deal with “naļve” / local time (a time without a timezone)? In building protocols such as BACnet, schedules are defined to start given local time with the responsibility of the device clock to be aware of the current local time.

Regards,

Dave

p.s. I’ve observed a challenge with C#, it doesn’t seem to have a naļve time type and will assume that a time without a timezone is local to the server.  But if that time is serialized and passed to another timezone, it will be unserialized with an adjustment for timezone (i.e. if you set dateTime = 4 am on a server in Chicago, pass it to a server in New York, it will unserialize as 5 am.)  This detail probably isn’t appropriate for this list, but it is an example of the complexities when you use times across systems.

David Wilson

Enterprise Solutions Portfolio Manager

Trane Commercial Systems

Ingersoll Rand

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Mobile: +1.612.741.2759

Email: davidcwilson@trane.com

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