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Subject: FW: [emix] Not To Exceed
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Sorry Toby, I forgot to click
reply-all. Robert Old Siemens Industry, Inc. Building Technologies 1000 Deerfield Pkwy. Buffalo Grove, IL 60089-4513 Tel.: +1 (847) 941-5623 Skype: bobold2 bob.old@siemens.com www.siemens.com From: Old, Bob My expectation for verification
is that the utility meter information is required. I’ve also heard that
in a curtailment scenario, just promising to reduce load by a certain amount
around uncertain beginning and end points is a non-starter. The programs I’ve heard of give
you a baseline for the next day, below which you have to reduce by some
program-determined amount and for which you get a program-determined level of
compensation. Sometimes the program specifies that the baseline will be
calculated on something like “the highest/lowest usage over 5 of the last 6 day
which don’t include weekends/holidays/days with an event called.” But
sometimes they just give you the number and you do your own modeling. We’re talking money here.
It needs a revenue grade meter. Best, B.O. March 11, 2010 Robert Old Siemens Industry, Inc. Building Technologies 1000 Deerfield Pkwy. Buffalo Grove, IL 60089-4513 Tel.: +1 (847) 941-5623 Skype: bobold2 bob.old@siemens.com www.siemens.com From: Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com]
On Behalf Of Toby Considine DR – and Verification, and
Verification is the conundrum. Verification is the problem because DR are is a
promise to reduce load by a certain amount from an uncertain beginning end
point to an unknown end point. What about an agreement that “I
will use no more than xxx” as a DR offering. It becomes entirely results
oriented (good for a service). It would be more valuable if it warranted “no
spikes” rather than merely total use for a [15 minute] period. It certainly
would be callable. Do we adopt this? If so, does
it look like [emix – this is for max use] Or does it look like [Eitc: I will commit not to exceed [emix] ] In other words, is max an EITC or
EMIX thing… tc "Energy and persistence conquer all things."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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