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Subject: RE: [energyinterop] Groups - Energy Interoperation TC Weekly Teleconference modified
That is in fact the case in the ISO-NE energy market as well as in the PJM
energy market. The new NYISO DR management platform, now in development,
also anticipates this as I understand it. Of course the other markets
remain. We anticipate that at some point, price streams will drive demand
management activity, but in more of a passive fashion than today. Meanwhile
"active DR", with an overt signal, will be more in a creature of regulation
and reliability. Long way 'round to say both systems will co-exist.
Phil Davis
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From: Edward Koch [mailto:ed@akuacom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:32 PM
To: Holmberg, David; wtcox@coxsoftwarearchitects.com;
energyinterop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [energyinterop] Groups - Energy Interoperation TC Weekly
Teleconference modified
David,
When we designed OpenADR we started out from the point of view that DR
Events and RTP transactions were different beasts which is reflected in our
use case diagrams. When we started to look more carefully though at the
data requirements for both we found that many of the same attributes of a
RTP signal were also reflected in our definitions of a DR event, namely
schedules and time slots for when the information is valid. We therefore
decided to use the same structure for both - i.e. the notion of a "signal"
(event in OpenADR) that can carry different types of information wherein
price is one type. That being said, I can definitely envision a scenario
where the prices are continuously streamed, much like a stock ticker, and in
that case there could be a divergence from what we originally did in
OpenADR.
-ed koch
-----Original Message-----
From: Holmberg, David [mailto:david.holmberg@nist.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:17 PM
To: wtcox@coxsoftwarearchitects.com; energyinterop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [energyinterop] Groups - Energy Interoperation TC Weekly
Teleconference modified
In reference to the interaction diagrams, Bill and I talked a bit about the
applicability of these to the transactional energy side of EI. Clearly, a
price is communicated on both sides: on the DR event side as a notice of
price based on a pre-executed contract. On the market side it is also a
price, but may be delivered simultaneously with the contract execution.
Then, DR events include a bunch of other services per Bill's notes (and not
including a bunch of intra-domain services as came up on the call). And
transactional energy includes all the bidding services already in OpenADR
(but not including CreateBid and DeleteBid, Bill, as that also is
intra-domain), plus whatever else is missing for offers and options trading.
One incongruence that I see is that in OpenADR price is passed as a
sub-element of event. How does that mesh with transactional energy?
Thanks,
David
-----Original Message-----
From: wtcox@coxsoftwarearchitects.com
[mailto:wtcox@coxsoftwarearchitects.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:59 AM
To: energyinterop@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [energyinterop] Groups - Energy Interoperation TC Weekly
Teleconference modified
Updated to include URIs for discussion documents.
Thanks!
bill cox
wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com
-- William Cox
Energy Interoperation TC Weekly Teleconference has been modified by William
Cox
Date: Wednesday, 21 April 2010
Time: 11:00am - 01:00pm ET
Event Description:
Regular Weekly Meeting of the OASIS Energy Interoperation TC
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Agenda:
Call to Order
* Roll Call (Rish)
* Action Items (Chairs)
* Approve Minutes
. April 7 meeting
(http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37405/EnergyInterop%20Min
utes%2020100407.doc )
* Interaction Patterns Continued (Bill)
. Analysis Spreadsheet
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37413/EITC%20Service%20Def
inition%20Analysis%2020100421.xls
. PPT update
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37414/Interaction%20for%20
EITC%2020100421.ppt
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