RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema-emotion

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

Agreed. That's why the Primary Base is so simple, so that we have the 
maximum freedom to elaborate at will above that that with primitives 
combining as needed.

Ciao,
Rex.

At 11:03 AM -0500 8/13/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>I've not much time so one quick comment.  Emotion is likely
>to become of primary importance in the sign experiment given
>that in Peircian semiotics, firstness is taken to mean the
>"feeling" of the event.   Other literature places primary
>importance there too.   Emotions seem to be the most direct
>response the human has to external events.  They also might
>be said to have the effect of reducing a lot of computation
>with respect to classification and choosing responses.  This
>will greatly affect some designs for semiotic processors as
>models of human reactions.  Also note, it has been observed
>that what humans remember best is not facts, or events, but
>how they "felt" about them at the time.
>
>Clearly while emotion is a simple enough element, how it
>gets applied won't be.
>
>len
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
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>
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm moving on to another element not because I think we are done with
>culture, but because I don't have much else to say about it until I
>see what Sylvia and Len come up with, and because I don't expect to
>resolve it for the first draft until we revisit it in the run through
>of the first draft specification. I do, however, look forward with
>great anticipation to see what our resident semiotes think about it.
>Also it is a big topic and this one is not--at least not in itself.
>Thankfully.
>
>emotion
>
>This is a ComplexType with the attribute of abstract. It does not
>reference other elements. It belongs to the attribute group
>humldentifierAtts. It takes an attribute value of intensity.
>
>It's description is: A basic set of primitive human emotions.
>
>It is about as basic and atomistic an element as we have, and while
>we may have noodling to do with other elements, there is not much to
>say about this one. This does however beg the question of a Secondary
>Base Schema since a number of secondary schemata will need the
>emotion primitives, so I think we pretty much find ourselves
>requiring the Secondary Base Schema.
>
>There is a point here which I have not brought up yet, but that I
>think we need to deal with now. Our Base Schema have not been defined
>as having attributes separate from the datatypes enumerated in the
>global attribute definitions and the reason I have not said boo about
>it is that I happen to agree wholeheartedly with a design principle
>that says one should not use attributes if we can accomplish what is
>needed with elements alone. However, with emotion here, and with
>several other elements we will be getting to soon, we will need, I
>think, the Secondary Base Schema to handle such things as the
>enumeration of attributes which James began to fill in for culture
>yesterday. Keeping attributes as secondary base elements allows us to
>disassociate such primitives as anger and resentment as types of
>emotion per se. That way they can take their own intensities rather
>than modifying an overall emotional state and allow for better
>computational efficiency.
>
>I happen to be thinking in terms of how to get discrete numerical
>values for various primitives which an application author can then
>choose to implement in any way rather than specifying, for instance
>that resentment is always a modifier of anger.
>
>I decided to use a simple element like emotion to point this out
>because I don't think we have much to quibble about with its
>description/definition.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Ciao,
>Rex
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>Rex Brooks
>Starbourne Communications Design
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