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Subject: RE: [humanmarkup-comment] RE: TC: meeting: 8/21/02: agenda notes


I'll be there for at least part of the meeting. 
I've been reviewing my notes on the Gudwin model 
and semiotics.  Sylvia and I talked a bit on the 
phone last week about the semiote and some issues 
on the markup draft for the signs element 

Referents are instances of the concept, Sylvia.
For example, in a sign for a bend in the road, 
the referent is the actual bend in the road. 
So for example, one might create a set of signs 
for human gestures which include photos of such
gestures.  The photos would not be referents but 
representations (signifiers?).

One problem with the semiotic literature is 
that being based on the papers of Peirce, some 
of the original language is Victorian and 
a little difficult to grok. (where anyone 
without Heinlein reading experience has 
problems with "grok").

len

-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]

Hi Len,

We can make that an agenda item in today's meeting. Hope you can 
attend. I understand time constraints, and if we don't have any 
takers, I will do it. In case the call info is not directly in front 
of you:

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