RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema-intention?

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

A codelist is just a sign set.  I would rewrite that as 

 ->  intention ---> Select(sign+) ---> encodeForTransmission
 |  ---> transmit ---> decodeFromTransmission ---> Select(sign+) ---> intention ->|
 |                                                                                |
 |________________________________<_______________________________________________|

although that isn't quite right either.  What I want to emphasize is the 
role of selectors that mediate the signs chosen and transmitted.  That is, 
intention itself requires a selection process and the data being fed to 
that comes from the types we have described as culture (itself a sign 
set), personal experience (episodic memory) and the emotional impressions 
made by these that predispose the semiote to select certain signs over 
other signs.  I don't think we can transmit our intentions.  We can 
transmit representations of these as signs.  Again, the problem is 
symbol grounding.  That is why Y=F(X) is overly simplistic.  Perhaps 
codelist is inappropriate as well in that it also connotes a single 
list of value pairs.  We may program it that way, but actually, we 
end up in vector space working with proximate values and fuzzy signs.

len

-----Original Message-----
From: Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga [mailto:rkthunga@interposting.com]

Also, to summarize what I intended during our TC conference about
intention:

I.
Based on our conversation, this is how I see the process you are
describing:

intention --> codelist --- transmission ---> decipher codelist -->
extract intention

Very important to make the entire code of transmission clear in this
regard of course.


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II.
However, what I was trying to express during the TC telecon was that I
see an additional process for conveying intention, much more
fundamentally:

intention --> transmission --> intention

This I would be at the same level as Emotion or Thought, and I would use
the same arguments to embody this within the Base Schema that you
mentioned in your previous posts on emotion Len in terms of its
fundamentality in describing ourselves and our perceptions.  

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I think that Sylvia has some important things to say about this as well,
and I am very much looking forward to elaborating on these ideas.