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Subject: [humanmarkup] Re: [humanmarkup-comment] Various Updates

We need to check with Karl first, I think, since it is more a matter 
of getting an OK from OASIS than of choice. I think the main issue 
will always be the two fold requirement of public accountability in 
the form of an accurate transcription and public availability in the 
form of reliability, both of which have to be acceptable to OASIS.

I don't have any objection with the emphasis, or, in other words, 
whether we establish that Yahoo or Teleconference is the official 
record venue, but I would like to make it clear. Is YahooChat capable 
of transcription that is independent of an individual connection? As 
I recall, it doesn't do that or wasn't reliable.

The whole point for me is to eliminate the necessity of spending most 
of my time taking notes, but as I have said before, I can do that.

Right now, I think that having the Teleconference be the record venue 
satisfies OASIS without the necessity of having to check back with 
them, which I don't have time to do before next Wednesday in so far 
as having a business day in which to do it  that isn't already 

So I suggest we just go ahead and let the teleconference with 
hand-written notes for minutes, stand because we don't have the time 
to dance around with this issue. However, if they don't want to incur 
the long distance charges to use the international lines we provide, 
our international folks can chime in on a Yahoo IM conference, which 
requires them sign up (free) at yahoo.com and post their username so 
we can invite them into the easily and reliably recordable conference 
where can  make a transcript of that simultaneous session, which I 
can use to assemble the full minutes which I will post and we can 
vote on the list to accept, and thus satisfy all of the OASIS 
requirements, allow everyone to participate without charges beyond 
their internet connection, and not have to hassle with getting 
permission from OASIS with less than week until the meeting itself. 
Let's just get this meeting done, eh?

Perhaps after the first of the year About.com will finally respond to 
me, or we can find something else.


At 1:35 AM -0500 12/13/01, Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga wrote:
>I propose we go forth with YahooChat if About.com doesn't work out.  I know
>IRC wasn't working last time I checked, and you mentioned connectivity
>problems from your side.
>I propose we hold it primarily on YahooChat, and use the teleconference as
>backup, instead of the other way around, since most of us prefer the chat
>format anyway.  If there are any connectivity issues, then we could do
>something based on what you propose.
>Invited experts are invited to join the meetings (just a clarification in
>policy) also.
>Sounds good?
>Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com>
>To: <humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org>;
>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:33 PM
>Subject: [humanmarkup-comment] Various Updates
>>  Hi Everyone,
>>  Alas, I didn't get the Preamble to the Proposal for a Human Physical
>>  Charactertistics Description Markup Language done today as I had
>>  hoped, so I will try to whack it into presentable shape before I
>>  leave for my on-site grindstone tomorrow morning.
>>  I did, however ask Sandy Ressler at NIST to arrange for our
>>  teleconference TC meeting next Wednesday, December 19 at 12 Noon EST.
>>  When we get the numbers and password we will pass it along. About.com
>>  did not get back to me after I sent in the signed form they needed.
>>  So we may have to make do with another jerry rigged way to get our
>>  International members included without them shoveling out hard-earned
>>  income for the privilege of contributing to our efforts. It has been
>>  suggested that we have a simultaneous Yahoo IM conference chat, which
>>  can be logged and have one of our statesiders pass along the
>  > comments, thoughts, motions, discussion, etc to the telephone
>>  conference for inclusion in the minutes upon which we can vote on the
>>  lists later if that is needed.
>>  We have a week to make arrangements and settle on an agenda if we
>>  want to discuss issues beyond progress reports on various work in
>>  progress.
>>  Ciao,
>>  Rex
>>  --
>>  Rex Brooks
>>  GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
>>  W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
>>  Email: rexb@starbourne.com
>>  Tel: 510-849-2309
>>  Fax: By Request
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Rex Brooks
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