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Subject: [humanmarkup] Base Schema-humlNameAtts

Title: Base Schema-humlNameAtts
Hi Everyone,

I am copying some relevant comments in this message to capture them for this thread. I will get back to this thread with a reply to this post momentarily.

I'm baaack....

Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:39:47 -0500
From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>
Subject: RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Back to the Grindstone
To: 'Rex Brooks' <rexb@starbourne.com>, humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
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I agree.   Technically, these would use INCLUDE
statements probably in the secondary schemas.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]

At 9:16 AM -0500 9/5/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>Sorry Rex, awfully busy here too.
>By way of explanation, originally the humlNameAtts were
>a simple place holder for a reusable attribute set which
>while creating the primary draft, I noted were showing up
>in multiple element types.  I've no objection to these
>being harmonized with other standards.   I don't have time
>to do this myself. :-(   I would hope that whatever other
>specification is used as a source for these, that their
>definitions are stable.   Interlocking language designs
>can be difficult to manage.

Understood, and for below, yes. The one realm where HumanML can gain
the most traction as a standard, which will then leverage our other
efforts into far greater visibility and use is in the protection of
privacy for personal preferences in depth, with the emphasis on depth
so that those of us who understand how to use that depth can
demonstrate it for the rest of the web in a way that shows the
benefit of having web applications and web services custom tailored
for each individual. However to do that we have to be harmonized with
name and address and Human Resources, which is the single largest
usage of personal information--extremely important personal
information related directly to one's ability to earn a living and be
treated properly in the workplace, which is arguably the most
important aspect of our lives, especially online. So we must be
absolutely compatible and interoperable with the authentication and
certification of identities represented in the name schema and
subsequently in the address schema and the various Human Resources
Schemata. If we build on that basis to deliver REAL benefits, our
standard will fly. Otherwise we will be marginal at best.


>Are you asking that these schema be used as contributing
>schema, IOW, we INCLUDE them in the primary so that authors
>using the primary can use them in their documents?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:56 AM
>To: humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org;
>Subject: [humanmarkup-comment] Back to the Grindstone
>Hi Everyone,
>I have been busy, so I am just now coming up for air, sort of. I was
>working on my own website, to offer some sculpture I have worked on
>for the last few years, and, of course, there appears to be a problem
>with Netscape 4.7 in viewing it, so I have still more work to do. If
>you care to look, my url is in my signature, but don't use the
>Netscape 4.7 browser if you do.
>However, I am getting back to HumanMarkup regardless. I really do
>intend to get this first issue out the door by the end of this month,
>so I need help here.
>No one has commented on humlNameAtts and I was hoping someone would
>step up to take on the job of checking/harmonizing those schemata I
>listed and posted urls for, but, alas, no one has picked up on the
>hint. Please help....
>Okay, that's it for the begging. I'm a very accepting person, so I
>will just carry on as best I can. I may not get a new official
>posting off today, but tomorrow for sure and thereafter in a big way.

Rex Brooks
Starbourne Communications Design
1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
http://www.starbourne.com * rexb@starbourne.com

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