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Subject: Re: [humanmarkup] Today's Meeting; Followup on repost of CIDOC CRMSymposium

Thanks James,

This is an excellent step for spreading information about the Human 
Markup Language. I'm tempted to make statements about where I think 
we will be by then, but I think it is better to get the work done 
rather than talk about what I think we will be able to do. For sure, 
we better have our first spec approved or close to approval by then. 
So I think we can plan based on that, so that what you and hopefully, 
Sylvia, too, can present will be material backed up with a working 
language ready to be used, and extended.

I think a 30 minute presentation makes more sense, too. When I 
presented our work to the first meeting of the Web Services for 
Interactive Applications TC meeting last January, it was aimed at 30 
minutes and went about an hour and a half, more from questions and 
discussions than from my presentation itself, which merely went about 
15 minutes longer than projected or about 45 minutes. Even then, it 
was shorter than what I had planned, since I had to cut out a largish 
middle section because questions started before I got much more than 
half way. However, that is always a possiblity if a presentation is 
given in a forum where feedback is encouraged. The point is, once an 
audience begins to understand what we are presenting with HumanML, 
questions follow quickly. I suggest a Powerpoint presentation with a 
couple of animated SVG sections backed by a paper for distribution 
with the rest of the symposium materials and website materials so 
that the audience can visit on their own and get a review of the 


At 4:14 PM -0500 9/18/02, James Landrum wrote:
>Per discussion during teleconference today, I am reposting the call 
>for participation in the upcoming International CIDOC CRM Symposium.
>Pending acceptance of paper, I will be presenting on the ATL 
>projects at this symposium, and per teleconference discussion today, 
>have offered to present a paper on behalf of HuML TC while there.
>Abstract is due no later than November 30, 2002. We should mapm out 
>the theme of the paper and draft the abstract, and submit in sooner 
>than later., etc.  I suggest we target a 30 minute presentation, 
>rather than the 15 minute session, because there is so much to 
>cover, or, short of that, if we choose to do so, focus on a more 
>specific topic with HuML and aim at the 15 minute presentation
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: CIDOC CRM Symposium
>Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:04:30 +0100
>From: William Kilbride <wgk1@YORK.AC.UK>
>Reply-To: William Kilbride <wgk1@YORK.AC.UK>
>Invitation and Call for Participation:
>International CIDOC CRM Symposium
>March 26 2003 2:00 - 6:00
>March 27 2003 9:00 - 5:00
>The CIDOC CRM Special Interest Group  and the Smithsonian Institution
>invite you to a two-day International Symposium designed to bring
>together researchers and practitioners in information provision and
>exchange, be it within organizations or on the envisaged Semantic Web,
>in the area of scientific and cultural heritage, with the goal to
>present and discuss technical, organizational, and philosophical issues
>of effectively sharing knowledge among museums, libraries, and archives
>and integrating information within cultural institutions.
>The program will comprise invited talks, submitted papers, and panel
>Paper submissions are welcome on the following topics:
>- scalable knowledge sharing architectures for intra-organizational
>- scalable knowledge sharing architectures for the Internet;
>- key components for knowledge sharing: ontologies, contextual
>     identification, persistence;
>- documentation practices enabling effective knowledge sharing;
>- metadata schemes for cross-domain searching;
>- success stories of knowledge sharing;
>- social, organizational, and technical factors;
>- the role of trust in knowledge sharing.
>A panel discussion will identify key directions for research and
>advocacy for the
>immediate future to bring us closer to shared and integrated knowledge
>in contemporary society.
>All contributions will be Web-published on the CIDOC CRM Web-site
>(http://cidoc.ics.forth.gr ).
>Presentations may be 15 minutes or 30 minutes.
>The Program committee reserves the right to refuse submissions.
>Proposals, accompanied by an abstract of 100-300 words, and short cv,
>should be sent to Dr. Martin Doerr, ( martin@ics.forth.gr ) by November
>30, 2002.
>The Symposium will be held at the Smithsonian's International Center in
>Washington, D.C.  Attendance will be free and light refreshments will be
>provided.  Participants are responsible for their own travel,
>accommodation, and meal costs.
>Apologies for cross-posting.
>Please distribute this announcement as appropriate.
>Martin Doerr
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>Rex Brooks wrote:
>>I just wanted to say that we held our monthly meeting today, and I 
>>will be posting the minutes to the lists and updating the website 
>>by the end of Sunday, September 22, 2002. Thanks to all who 
>>attended. I look forward to a productive next few weeks.
>From the Desk of James E. Landrum III
>Database Manager
>Archaeology Technologies Laboratory (ATL; http://atl.ndsu.edu)
>Digital Archive Network for Anthropology (DANA; http://atl.ndsu.edu/archive)
>North Dakota State University, Fargo, North Dakota 58105
>Ph: 701-231-7115 (my desk) and ATL 701-231-6434
>FAX: 701-231-1047
>email: james.landrum@ndsu.nodak.edu

Rex Brooks
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1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
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