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Subject: [humanmarkup] TC Monthly Minutes
- From: Rex Brooks <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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- Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:10:44 -0700
Title: TC Monthly Minutes
I found a minor error and corrected it. So, here is the correct
posting. Sorry, it's one of those human things.
Here are the minutes for this month's meeting:
Here are the TC Minutes, which I will link
to this post Sunday, September 22, 2002 on the TC
September 18, 2002
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
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Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Emmanueil Batsis by proxy
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened12:05 p.m. Eastern Time
This meeting was on our normally scheduled third Wednesday of the
We had a bare quorum.
The first item of business in this meeting was a motion, which passed
without dissent, to, in effect, grandfather into TC membership as
invited expert Emmanueil (Manos) Batsis as was Kurt Cagle previously
in order to ensure the continuity of our work, until they can renew
their memberships, especially at this time. This followed a prior
conversation held on YahooIM chat between Manos and Rex, in which this
was discussed and some work agreed upon. The transcription
rexbroo: If you see this, before 8 pm your time and
you want to chat a bit before the Tc meeting. I'm trying to keep an
eye open for you.
rexbroo: Hi Manos
rexbroo: Oops, I disconnected myself there.
xcircuit: dont have much time; about yesterday's posts, I can make a
sample RDF Schema to demonstrate the ideas mentioned if people are
interested in it
rexbroo: I certainly am interested.
rexbroo: I'm sure James Landrum will be, too.
xcircuit: ok, you'll have it by monday, if not sooner
xcircuit: I just want to see some reactions on it...
rexbroo: I'm really pleased about it. It just makes so much sense to
xcircuit: i'm glad it does
xcircuit: u know me; i like conversations around code
xcircuit: so, I hope this will help getting the conversation going
rexbroo: it will.
rexbroo: I will let everyone know in the meeting.
xcircuit: plus it will help in getting Len's idea forward (about RDF
friendly markup and combos of schema languages
rexbroo: I'm realy looking forward to it.
rexbroo: Tanks for getting back to me on this.
xcircuit: u r welcome
xcircuit: anything else i might help with?
rexbroo: I'll let you go now, but boy I would really like to just
chain you to a keyboard--kidding1
rexbroo: Take Care.
xcircuit: BTW, u know my oasis membership has expired for months
xcircuit: we'll probably have problems with this; i dont plan to
refresh it till december...
rexbroo: That's okay. you are an invited expert, along with Kurt who
is in the same boat.
xcircuit: ah, ok
xcircuit: please update my mail info on the TC page; I am an employee
of Broker Systems no longer
rexbroo: okay, will do.
rexbroo: You're very welcome.
rexbroo: Talk to ya later...
xcircuit: ok Rex, u guys have a productive meeting
xcircuit: say hi for me
rexbroo: will do
Yahoo! Messenger: xcircuit has logged out. (9/18/2002 at 8:01 AM
It is hoped that after our TC submits its first specification for
approval as a TC Recommendation, a bit more substantive involvement in
our work will evolve from corporate OASIS members. --Secretaries
We continued on to the next item of business as, Rex mentioned, and
Ranjeeth concurred, that by OASIS policy we were required to drop
Sudhakar Gorti from our membership until he formally requests
membership again. It is to be hoped that he will do so, and it was
left undecided what we will do to establish new leadership for the
Human Physical Characteristics Description Markup Language
Subcommittee. While not formally addressed, it appears safe to say
that we will revisit this after the Primary Base XML Schema of the
Human Markup Language has been submitted for OASIS
It was also mentioned that the notification sent to Sudhakar Gorti was
replied to automatically with a brief form message stating Sudhakar's
absence from his office.
The next item of business was to discuss the necessity of postponing
our target date for completing the initial preparation of the first
draft of the Primary Base Schema from September 31, 2002 to Octo. 30.
2002. This was also agreed to without dissent. Such actions are not
unusual in OASIS, and Rex noted that the Web Services for Interactive
Applications Technical Committee has also postponed the target date
for completing the first draft of the WSRP-WSIA Joint Interface
We moved on to new business at this point, and Philip expressed a wish
to work with someone who could direct him to contribute appropriate
work to the TC, to which Rex responded that following the completion
of the first draft of the Primary Base Schema, he would be turning his
attention to the Human Physical Characteristics Description ML work
with the specific task in mind of completing a sample implementation
in parallel with that work and that would require quite a bit of work
which he would gladly prefer to pass along to Philip. This work is
likely to be a compilation of resources relating to this work from
medical, biometric and computer communities with whose standards and
systems we must ensure that our work is interoperable and
As part of a renewed discussion proceeding from the point at which the
email discussion has last reached, using the change of the element
name of measurement to measurement_unit which he had suggested and we
approved, James Landrum then gave us a brief discussion of the CIDOC
CRM Symposium, the CFP for which follows:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: CIDOC CRM Symposium
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:04:30 +0100
From: William Kilbride <wgk1@YORK.AC.UK>
Reply-To: William Kilbride <wgk1@YORK.AC.UK>
Invitation and Call for Participation:
"SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE"
International CIDOC CRM Symposium
March 26 2003 2:00 - 6:00
March 27 2003 9:00 - 5:00
The CIDOC CRM Special Interest Group and the Smithsonian
invite you to a two-day International Symposium designed to bring
together researchers and practitioners in information provision
exchange, be it within organizations or on the envisaged Semantic
in the area of scientific and cultural heritage, with the goal to
present and discuss technical, organizational, and philosophical
of effectively sharing knowledge among museums, libraries, and
and integrating information within cultural institutions.
The program will comprise invited talks, submitted papers, and
Paper submissions are welcome on the following topics:
- scalable knowledge sharing architectures for
- scalable knowledge sharing architectures for the Internet;
- key components for knowledge sharing: ontologies, contextual
- documentation practices enabling effective knowledge sharing;
- metadata schemes for cross-domain searching;
- success stories of knowledge sharing;
- social, organizational, and technical factors;
- the role of trust in knowledge sharing.
A panel discussion will identify key directions for research and
advocacy for the
immediate future to bring us closer to shared and integrated
in contemporary society.
All contributions will be Web-published on the CIDOC CRM Web-site
Presentations may be 15 minutes or 30 minutes.
The Program committee reserves the right to refuse submissions.
Proposals, accompanied by an abstract of 100-300 words, and short
should be sent to Dr. Martin Doerr, ( email@example.com ) by
The Symposium will be held at the Smithsonian's International Center
Washington, D.C. Attendance will be free and light refreshments
provided. Participants are responsible for their own travel,
accommodation, and meal costs.
Apologies for cross-posting.
Please distribute this announcement as appropriate.
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James said that he would be preparing a presentation for this
Symposium which could be inclusive of the HumanML initiative, and Rex
mentioned that our invited expert, Sylvia Candelaria deRam, had also
expressed interest in preparing a paper for presentation to this
symposium. Her field is Cognitive Sciences while James' field is
Cultural Anthropology and Archeology, and unifying the data resources
for this field ties directly into the work of the HumanMarkup TC. It
was agreed that we would support both of these efforts to the best of
Rex also discussed the possibility of doubly our effective use of
these materials by making them available to Susan Turnbull at the
Universal Access Workshop series being conducted by the General
Services Administration, and the federal government's xml working
group co-chair Owen Ambur.
James also informed us that he would be in India next month, working
on aspects of his field there, and therefore, would be unable to
attendT our next meeting. There was also a brief further discussion of
the RDF sample Manos will be working up for us, and the fact that we
can accomplish much of the harmonization of our vocabularies by
connecting the elements of our xml schemata to the reference resources
of the application areas we wish to serve by the use of RDF.
We also discussed the group to which we had been referred, which had
developed the Human Anatomy Markup Language, AnatML for which the web
references had proven to be expired. James suggested we shift our
focus for that resource to the group working on the Physiome Project
at Princeton University, at http://www.physiome.com. This has proven
to now be a commercial enterprise, and contact with it has been
deferred until after our next meeting, which will include this as an
item on the agenda.
That concluded the new business that was brought forward and the
meeting was then adjourned.
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