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Subject: [humanmarkup] Oct 16 Meeting Minutes.
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:29:48 -0700
Title: Oct 16 Meeting Minutes.
Hi Everyone,
It's late, but here it is:
Here are the TC Minutes, which I will link
to this post Sunday, Oct. 27 2002 on the TC website.
Oct 16, 2002
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
Committee.
USA Toll Free Number: 888-576-9014
USA Toll Number: +1-773-756-0201
Roll Call:
Voting Members:
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Rex Brooks
Rob Nixon
Joe Norris
Invited Experts:
Len Bullard
Kurt Cagle
Sylvia Candelaria de Ram
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened12:05 p.m. Eastern Time
This meeting was on our normally scheduled third Wednesday of the
Month.
We had a quorum.
The first item on the agenda was a report on the current state of
preparation of the first draft of the Primary Base Schema. Rex Brooks
reported that we had, at that point, nearly finished the item-by-item
review of the strawman schema from Phase O written by Len Bullard last
year. This included the new elements and attributeGroup that we had
developed over the course of these discussions since April when we
began the process. This included a review of the relevant OASIS Policy
cited here:
"
Section 2. Standards Process
(a) Approval of a Committee
Specification
Upon completion of
a specification the TC may approve the work as a Committee
Specification. The approval of aCommittee Specification shall require
at least 2/3 of the total membership of a TC voting to approve and no
more than 1/4 voting to disapprove.
The name of a Committee Specification may
not include any trademarks or service marks not owned by OASIS.
Before the TC can
submit its Committee Specification to OASIS membership for review and
approval as an OASIS Standard, the TC must conduct a public review of
the work. The decision by the TC to submit the work for review
requires a majority vote. The review should be publicized on
applicable OASIS mail lists and other public mail lists. Review must
take place for a minimum of 30 days, during which time no changes may
be made to the document. Comments must be collected via the TC's
public comment list. The TC must record the comments received as well
as the resolution of those comments. The TC may conduct any number of
additional review cycles (i.e. collecting comments, making edits to
the specification, sending out a revised version for review again,
etc.) before deciding that the review is complete. After the
conclusion of the review and final changes to the document, the TC
must re-approve the work as a Committee Specification before
submitting it to OASIS.
"
Kurt Cagle made a motion, which passed without dissent, that the
HumanMarkup Technical Committee conduct our vote on the first draft of
the Primary Base Schema on the TC E-mail list and to complete the
voting by Oct. 31, provided the first draft was completed with
sufficient time for a review.
Rex Brooks, who is compiling and editing this draft said that it would
take about a week, which would leave just enough time for a review and
vote.
The second item on the agenda was a discussion of the need for the
committee to provide a mechanism for amending the various
specifications which we anticipate will be produced. Rex Brooks
suggested that the appropriate vehicle for this mechanism was the
Requirements Document which will need to be updated for ongoing
concerns regardless.
It was decided to collect opinions and suggestions for this issue and
revisit it at a later time.
The third item on the agenda was a clarification by Len Bullard of
what he meant by a need for us to develop an "adjunct process"
to accompany our specification work. Len said that what he meant was
something along the lines of an outline or overview of how the
specification would handle inputs and what kind of outputs it would
provide. This was distinguished from the ongoing "semiotic
processor" experiment which we also discussed a bit later.
The fourth item on the agenda was to have been a discussion of what
Manos Batsis was doing for the proposed RDF Schemata Project to
provide resources for various measurement standards to make use of
these in applications of HumanML. However, because Rex Brooks was
unable to have a chat with Manos on Yahoo IM as has previously been
employed for such purposes, this item was deferred to a later
time.
The fifth item on the agenda was a brief discussion of how the
"Semiotic Processor" experiment was progressing. Len
reported that he was still conducting further research, and Sylvia
noted that she remained ready to proceed once it was a little more
clear how such a processor would work with the elements from the
Primary Base Schema.
It is expected that once the Primary Base Schema specification is
defined and in the 30-day public comment period, the Semiotic
Processor experiment would proceed. Rex Brooks expressed a hope that
it could be one of the three separate implementations of any
specification that is required by OASIS for final standard
approval.
The sixth item on the agenda was a brief discussion of how the
subcommittees might proceed, especially using the RDF Schema for
including appropriate measurment systems, and with some development,
through that process, for a method or methods for supplying reliable
values for subjective measurements such as intensities of emotions.
This was discussed in relation to the need for developing numerous
code lists of element and attribute enumerations, extensions,
restrictions, and application-area specific foundational vocabularies
in the Secondary Base Schema which will follow our work on the Primary
Base Schema.
This item also included some discussion of the need for
implementations as well, and a suggestion was made by Rex Brooks that
a planned motion-capture collaboration between James Landrum of North
Dakota State University and Rob Nixon of Quantum Digital Arts to
record Pow Wow dancing as part of a program to raise awareness of
diabetes as a manageable health problem among Native Americans could
be used as a sample implementation, although it was not discussed in
any detail as to how that might be achieved.
The seventh and last item on the agenda was a discussion on the topic
of the three separate implementations required by OASIS for adoption
of a candidate specification as an approved standard. Rex Brooks asked
that all committee members give this some thought and informed the
group that he would be pursuing an X3D application to provide more
human-like animated emoticons in a chat window that users could
indicate emotional reactions and various kinds of facial gestures or
expressions. Although that implementation along with the motion
capture and Semiotic Processor would provide three implementations, it
was made clear that there was no guarantee that these would reach
fruition, so more candidate implementations are needed.
The process for conducting the review of the last few remaining items
from the Primary Base Schema, and moving on to proofread and comment
on the first draft of the specification was reviewed again, and then
the meeting was adjourned.
--
Rex Brooks
Starbourne Communications Design
1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
http://www.starbourne.com * rexb@starbourne.com
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