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Subject: [huml] This month's meething
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: public-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:47:01 -0800
Title: This month's meething
Here are the minutes for this month's
meeting:
Here are the TC Minutes, which I will link
to this post Sunday, December 22, 2002 on the TC website.
December 18, 2002
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
Committee.
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Roll Call:
Voting Members:
James Landrum
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Rex Brooks
Rob Nixon
Non-voting participants
Sylvia Candelaria de Ram
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened12:05 p.m. Eastern Time
This meeting was on our normally scheduled third Wednesday of the
Month.
We did not have a quorum.
The first item of business was a review of the 30-day Public Comment
Period for the Committee Specification The Human Markup Language
Primary Base XML Schema Specification and the one change which was
decided by vote of the TC during this process.
We decided to delete the attribute race from the attributeGroup
physicalDescriptors. We did not have a motion to specifically change
the other components which have been questioned in relation to the
Semiosis Section of Specification, Semiosis, Signal and Symbol.
There was no dissent from the proposal put forward by Rex Brooks to
simply make the change voted and set further work on the Primary Base
Schema aside until after several other concerns have been decided.
Specifically, these issues are:
* the modification of the Requirements Document to include a process
or method by which new components may be added to the Primary Base
Schema or existing components may be deleted;
* the inclusion or deletion of Semiosis, Signal and Symbol in the
Semiosis Section;
* the inclusion of any new components which work on the Secondary
Base Schema through the process of developing the three independent
implementations of the PBS that are required for submission to OASIS
for approval as a standard.
We discussed at some length the possible replacement of race as a
component apart from physicalDescriptors, as a social construct which
reflects current usages and leaves open a better, more accurate
descriptions of this common human grouping and its use as an important
component of identity. Many of the shortcomings of the term race were
mentioned, including the difficulty arising from individuals with
mixed "racial" heritages.
From this discussion, James Landrum's proposal of Ethnicity appeared
to have the most applicability. James mentioned the Arch-L mailing
list as a resource for exploring the concepts behind replacing race
with ethnicity within the academic archeology community.
Sylvia made the point that this area is fraught with multiple,
overlapping cultural contexts which directly affect comunications.
Ranjeeth suggested that American Culture is often best viewed, if
possible, from the internal viewpoint of the individual outward for
purposes of comparing the experience of racial/ethnic identities.
Rob noted that the relative influence of ethnicity within a VR-AI
context could be viewed as overlapping waveforms in terms of analyzing
communication interactions. It is noted that the work of Rob and
Sylvia and James all lend quantifying, chartable or graphable, aspects
to an accounting of or for ethnicity which deserves to be pursued
further.
We decided to put this issue on the agenda for January.
The second item on the agenda was to decide on Tentative Milestone
dates for ongoing work.
We have targeted the date for sample implementations for March 31,
2003, which parallels the date for work to be completed for the papers
James and Sylvia may be making to the CIDOC Conference March 26-27,
2003.
We have targeted the date for completing work on the revision of the
Requirements Document for Feb. 28, 2003.
We have targeted the date for completing work on the PBS and to submit
it to OASIS for April 31, 2003.
We had a discussion about the fact that the papers have not yet been
accepted or declined for presentation, and James asked if the chat
application implementation would be done in Java, which could leverage
or work with the the Digital Archive Network for Anthropology. Rex
replied that he was planning on implementing the X3D
(VRML97-compliant)/HumanML-enhanced chat in both Java and Python, due
to the fact that the webhost for the sample implementation uses Python
as the webserver scripting language. Rex also said that he would be
using an open-source Java chat application as a model, which
facilitates the process considerably, since Java is the preferred
language for the X3D Scena-Authoring-Interface. An effort will be made
for thisto work with DANA. DANA, is a Java3D application, which will
require a bit more work for the purpose of interoperability, but it
remains doable.
Rob said that he and James are proceeding with the sample
implementation which makes use of the motion-capture work done for the
"Native Dancer" Diabetes-Awareness Project at North Dakota
State University which James is conducting.
One of the advantages of this approach is that it will make numerous
multimedia and image server databases available for numerous kinds of
interactivity.
The third item on the agenda was discussion, which will be continued
in January, of developing or adopting a standard format for the
Mission, Values and Goals Statements of the Subcommittees.
Rex mentioned that it seems likely that our subcommittees will want to
keep in mind the longer term goal of creating APIs for these
application areas.
We also briefly touched on the the fourth item on the agenda, which
was to focus our outreach in a way that can attract individual new
members capable of acting as liaisons with various other TCs, working
groups and standards organizations. In this context, Ranjeeth gave us
a brief description of the early work in organizing and establishing
the new e-Gov TC to which he will be our liaison, as Rex is for Web
Services.
One of the overarching themes of this effort was summarized from a
description of the purpose for DANA, is that we are seeking to use
HumanML-enhanced language translation in the broader scope of Human
undertakings by focusing on cultural usages and cultural expressions.
This is clearly within the scope of communications. This concept ties
together the need, as exemplified in DANA, for having common
resources, such as accurately scanned 3D models of artifacts which can
then be examined by anyone who installs the DANA client, and as our
chat application seeks to make standard representation of emotional
facial expressions possible.
We then adjourned.
--
Rex Brooks
Starbourne Communications Design
1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
http://www.starbourne.com * rexb@starbourne.com
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