[huml] RE: LMNL toolkit for HumanML

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

We've never created a schema derived from the primary base. 
In phase 0, we discussed a lot of alternatives for approaching 
problems of human communication and miscommunication.  One 
of those was codelists for emotional states.  John already 
had a set for attitudes from other work he had done, and 
provided them as samples.  Other folks made up some codelists 
and we had a set of identified emoticons.  Most of that work 
is lost in the archives somewhere. :-)

But yes, anyone could sit down and derive a set of concrete 
types from the primary base and create their own codelists. 
Yes, those can be combined in a free form way just as music 
can have style and a vocabulary of notes and harmonizations 
that can be combined free form or according to strict genre 
rules.

As we both know, XML Schema abstract types don't do a lot 
so they are *primarily* a set of categories.  Yes, a 
person could use a set of derived codelists in a freeform 
way to annotate an existing text.  One could build that 
all the way up to a genre if they wished.  I did a lot 
of research into it (which is why all of the semiotics 
references started creeping into my XML-Dev email) and 
from the simplest emoticon to the most complex genre, 
it's all just markup (turtles from top to bottom). I 
tend to think of it as general midi for text (instructions to 
a machine to render a named instrument using whatever 
that sound card supports).

It would definitely take blogs to a new level because 
one could enter the markup directly, or use an interpreter 
to do the annotation.  Of course, everything of interest 
to another human is in the rendering/interpretation. ;-)

While it is possible to put a lot of AI and other interpretive 
machinery behind it, a basic annotation system is a simple 
place to start and a lot of fun given a freely downloadable 
rendering avatar system.  That is where H-Anim and X3D come 
in.  It's all XML of course, and XSLT could drive it.  We 
can discuss XSLT as a means to achieve Shannon selectors 
if you like.

len

-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin Thomas Nicol [mailto:gtn@rbii.com]

On Monday 03 March 2003 03:30 pm, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> It would be interesting/maybe popular to combine
> HumanML-derived codelists with a blog editor.

Hmm. That'd take blogs a step further for sure! Blogs with a face and a 
voice...

>  A simple set
> which we got earlier with input from John
> Cowan is a set of emotions/attitudes with
> range attributes.  Emotions are somewhat
> like polarities; not solved, but managed.
> Given that, one can markup the emotion
> and then the rendering just does whatever
> it does given some intensity value.  That
> is a simple way to start.

I take it these code lists really are somewhat free-form so that even though 
there is a prescribed set of codes, the ways in which they can be combined is 
largely unrestricted?

Again, I must admit to an almost total ignorance of HumanML, something I will 
try to rectify ASAP.

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