Re: [humanmarkup] Re: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED

[Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>]

Good that you like it.  Hope there is synergy with this and your interests.
I think "New Media Subcommittee" works.

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RKT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Norris" <jwnorris@humanmarkup.org>
To: "OASIS TC MAIN" <humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [humanmarkup] Re: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED


> Dear Ranjeeth and everyone,
>
> That is a great idea. I hope with such a move we can expand our outreach
to
> writers and other non-computer scientist researchers that would be
> interested in contributing to HM development.
>
> HumanML_Write, and a host of other possible HM applications, will surely
> appeal to many creative groups of researchers.
>
> I will develop an outline for incorporating the new goals, interests, and
> research areas within the subcommittee. I am not sure as to what name
would
> encompass both roles well, so I will mull on one. Any ideas?
>
> Cordially,
>
> Joe Norris
> jwnorris@mindspring.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga" <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>
> To: "OASIS TC MAIN" <humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 2:05 PM
> Subject: [humanmarkup] Re: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED
>
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > I wanted to suggest expand the scope of your subcommitte from
> "HumanML_Write
> > Subcommittee" to be "Writing Subcommittee" (or something appropritely
> > named).
> >
> > This would still include HumanML_Write, but would have a broader set of
> > goals including many of the topics you mentioned in your last post on
the
> > comments board.  Normally, I wouldn't recommend expanding the scope of a
> > project when the milestones, as they stand, have not yet developed.
> > However, I suggest this because it allows us to tap into so much more
> > potential, and allows your expertise to be most effectively conveyed..
> >
> > Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rob Nixon" <rnixon@qdyn.com>
> > To: "Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga" <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>
> > Cc: "Joseph Norris" <jwnorris@humanmarkup.org>; "OASIS Comment"
> > <humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 12:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED
> >
> >
> > > Ranjeeth, Joe,
> > >
> > > Regarding emotions, we should closely examine the work of people like
> Nico
> > H.
> > > Frijda.
> > >
> > > He has written a very interesting book called "The Emotions": Studies
in
> > Emotion
> > > & Social Interaction.
> > >
> > > I've read it a number of times and believe that it would form a good
> > reference
> > > for our work on emotions in regards to HumanML.  There are many other
> > sources as
> > > well.  Are either of you familiar with Frijda's work?
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Joe for your interest.  Certainly there are a variety of
> > applications
> > > > in the creative domain for HumanML.
> > > >
> > > > It would be very much appreciated if you could do the following Joe:
> > > > 1) Write a short story, filled with both *tacit* and *explicit*
human
> > > > emotion and expression -- 2 pages or so is fine.
> > > > 2) Describe an *authoritative* reference *enumerating* the human
> kinesic
> > > > expressions and emotions which you want to use.  If not, then we can
> > simply
> > > > use the enumerations described in the HM.frameworks document for
now.
> > > >
> > > > After that, we can then develop the HumanML - XML Schema modules for
> > > > emotions and kinesics to help build this particular example.
> > > >
> > > > I know you're kinda busy with a lot of things...if don't get to it,
> I'll
> > try
> > > > to drum up a short story from somewhere in the next couple of days.
> > > > However, your writing background would be very useful to have direct
> > input
> > > > from.
> > > >
> > > > Take care,
> > > >
> > > > Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joseph Norris" <jwnorris@humanmarkup.org>
> > > > To: "Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga" <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>; "OASIS
> Comment"
> > > > <humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 7:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Ranjeeth,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you for mentioning HM applications for writers. As discussed
> in
> > > > Phase
> > > > > 0, new types of writing technologies are well suited towards HM
> > > > > enhancements. The possibilities are legion - from electronic
novels
> > > > (called
> > > > > "e-pics" by literary commentators) to the simple tagging of
scripts
> > and
> > > > > screenplays.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a very basic level, for example, a playwright could encode his
or
> > her
> > > > > stage directions, settings, and instructions to actors. Scripts
for
> > > > > electronic games or Ebooks could be tagged with HM information
that
> > can be
> > > > > feed into a 3D interactive world where avatar actors can respond
in
> > ways
> > > > > encoded by the author. Electronic storytelling can aid in
education
> > and
> > > > > entertainment.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do really enjoy talking about the practical real-world
> applications
> > of
> > > > > HumanMarkup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Writing and other creative endeavors will never be the same after
> > > > > HumanMarkup changes the computer from a glorified typewriter and
the
> > > > > internet from a mere display-case into to something revolutionary,
> > > > > interactive, and real.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cordially,
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe Norris
> > > > > jwnorris@humanmarkup.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga" <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>
> > > > > To: "OASIS Comment" <humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 1:14 AM
> > > > > Subject: [humanmarkup-comment] HMU.newmedia: CREATED
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is a simple example I bring up to start engaging the
> HumanML -
> > XML
> > > > > > Schema.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It isn't the most pragmatic example in light of recent events,
but
> I
> > > > > wanted
> > > > > > to start because it is the most straightforward example I have
> > > > envisioned
> > > > > > HumanML to be applied for.   It's probably the best example to
get
> > > > juices
> > > > > > flowing.  My colleage Mei created a similar example, using
ad-hoc
> > > > HumanML
> > > > > > tags, a few months ago.  However, we could expand this to create
a
> > full
> > > > > > fledged example:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/humanmarkup/documents/HMU.newmedia.txt
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HMU.newmedia
> > > > > > last updated:  4 November 2001
> > > > > > (example describing how we could use HumanML to convey emotions
in
> > New
> > > > > Media
> > > > > > writing)
> > > > > > --------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PROBLEM:
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > I am a writer.  I write stories for a living.  I love my
> profession,
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > > > am glad I am able to convey my message and perspectives through
> the
> > > > > > experiences of the characters in my story.  Unfortunately,
> however,
> > I
> > > > feel
> > > > > > very limited in my ability to express myself, due to the
> limitations
> > of
> > > > > > black and white text.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The World Wide Web has now allowed for much greater possibilites
> of
> > > > > > expression, mixing sound, graphics, colors, and music in so many
> > ways.
> > > > > Now,
> > > > > > I can use various colors, fonts, and styles to express my
emotions
> > and
> > > > > > expressions much more strikingly and effectively.  However,
*how*
> > should
> > > > > I,
> > > > > > or could I, do this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PROPOSED SOLUTION:
> > > > > > -----
> > > > > > Use Human Markup Language to embed emotions and expressions
(i.e.
> > > > > kinesics)
> > > > > > within the text of the message.  Then, create a legend of sorts
at
> > the
> > > > > > bottom of the screen, which conveyes what this means.  Based on
> > style
> > > > > > guidelines, new media text could represent far greater pallete
of
> > > > > > presentation possibilities of textual information.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would call for the use of "HumanML - XML Schema" and
> >  "HumanML -
> > > > > Style
> > > > > > Guidelines"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feel free to take it from here...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------
> > > > > > Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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