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Subject: April 23, 2003 HumanMarkup TC Minutes
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 07:11:13 -0700
Title: April 23, 2003 HumanMarkup TC
Minutes
Hi Everyone,
Here are the minutes for last month's meeting.
April 23, 2003
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
Committee.
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Roll Call:
Voting Members:
Rex Brooks
James Landrum
Rob Nixon
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Sylvia Candelaria deRam
Len Bullard
James Landrum
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened12:05 p.m. Eastern Time
Previous meeting minutes accepted.
This meeting was held on the fourth Wednesday of the Month.
We had a quorum.
As usual, some of these items were actually discussed in a different
sequence from the posted agenda, but it is handier to summarize these
discussionsby agenda or topic.
Old Business:
Ranjeeth reviewed his contacts with the New York Academy of Medicince
on behalf of the Fund for the City of New York. He, and therefore to
some extent, we (the HumanMarkup TC) will be contributing to a
Resource Guide database with the follow-up possibility for expanding
into a full public heath portal.
That will include some liaison effort from Rex Brooks to coordinate
the cross connections for Emergency management through his
participation in that TC. Ranjeeth will be doing likewise to
coordinate his work with the E-Gov TC. He reported that he would hear
definitive word on whether this project would be moving forward in a
way that can accommodate our limited input the following day,
Thursday, or the day after that, Friday. (We have since heard that
this was decided affirmatively.) He was in transit so he had to leave
a bit early.
Rex asked when the E-Gov TC would meet again, and we learned that
there is a face to face meeting scheduled for London in May.
Rob and James reported that their mutual projects are currently
awaiting word on NSF Grant applications which will be decided in a
July-August timeframe.
Rex reported that the OASIS policy for substantiating sample
implementations consists of affirmative statements from three member
companies that they have or are using a specification
satisfactorily.
James and Sylvia reviewed the presentation to the CIDOC Symposium in
Washington D.C. March 27, 2003. They reported that our
presentation was well-received and that they are encouraged by the
response. Sylvia reported that our definition for humanGroup was
actually adopted as part of their CRM as a definition for Group, and
that our Primary Base Schema fits well with the CRM to add emotional
and cultural elements. Both of them joined the CRM SIG, and will
continue to pursue this connection. It was also suggested that our
supporting work outside OASIS should be aligned with and signed onto
this SIG.
James mentioned three names for people with whom we might pursue
further contact, Martin Dooer, Matthew Stiff and Tony Gill, and Sylvia
concurred. James also said that this work has a fairly strong
connection to proposal he has submitted to NSF to develop a Virtual
Heritage Library, for 3D morpohometric representations of
archeological and anthropological artifacts. This includes
HumanMarkup-enhanced annotations and metrics.
Sylvia and James are continuing work on finishing up the fully
annotated combined paper and presentation which they will be
submitting to CIDOC for inclusion in the archived Symposium
materials.
Len suggested, in the context of further discussion that one of the
issues we should be aware of in our outreach efforts is that customer
requests for applications and features is currently the major if not
only way corporate-funded research is likely to be approved. So, he
said, one of our best possibilities is to work through such Academic
Institutions as the MIT Media Lab in their efforts to find Research
and Development funding for Post Graduate projects. The discussion led
us to a conclusion that one line of approach would be to ask for
Corporate Sponsors to fund a review of our work in human communication
for the purpose of determining its efficacy in influencing behavior
and avoiding miscommunications. Rex mentioned that we have a grad
student inquiring about our work, so this is something that can be
pursued in the near term.
It was also suggested that we look for groups that build codelists for
standard applications in order to place our work in that context.
Rex reviewed his work in the Emergency Management TC and the Web
Services TCs (WSIA, WSRP), in particular his work with the WSRP-Markup
Subcommittee. His conclusions are that many related standards are
converging, and the task of coordinating, harmonizing and ensuring
interoperability is a major liaison task that he is pursuing,
especially in the context of ensuring the applicability of the Human
Physical Characteristic Description Markup Language Subcommittee
(HPCDML SC). James said that he needed a bit more time to review the
charter Rex previously submitted for the HPCDML SC, so it could not be
voted upon during the meeting. It was decided we conduct a vote by
ballot for the approval of the charter on the OASIS HumanMarkup TC
webpage. That vote is scheduled to end on May 1, 2003.
Sylvia reviewed her work on a semiotic processor, saying that she is
working with Manos on interval logic modelling of time--intervalic
time as an environment variable and asked Rob to look at it. It was
also noted that time concepts play a large role in the work of
anthropology and archeology and that this is an on-going interest for
Rob and James. It appears that there is a fairly important connection
between developing temporal metrics and connecting CRM, the CIDOC
Common Reference Model, with both AI and training/learning (education
process) modelling efforts.
Rob explained that this specifically relates to his work on creating
temporal reference "frames" in which body mechanics are
performed, using this in his work on creating kinesic gestural
"vocabularies" with motion capture information. James said
that this dovetails with his proposal for Virtual Heritage Library in
the sense of describing Bioanthropological body mechanics, such as
that exhibited in his "Native Dancer" project--and mentioned
Debra Lieberman as someone working in this "dance" area at
The Research Center for Virtual Environments & Behavior at the Institute for Social, Behavioral, and
Economic Research, University of California, Santa Barbara.
The meeting concluded at 1:10 p.m.
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Rex Brooks
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