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Subject: Re: [metaphorical] "Event Loops, XSLT, and XFor ms" and SVG
Len would know more about who is interested in this here animal. I know exactly zilch about it. I think X3D is fine, and just needs better browsers--and more compelling, and useful content. But then, I've been saying that all along. Ciao, Rex >Rex, > >Congrats to Len. As to the z-axis for SVG, I've got some really grave >misgivings about that. Don't get me wrong -- I'd love to be able to extend >SVG into three dimensions, but that kind of change will have a radical >effect upon the language. Transformation matrices would need to be extended >to be four dimensions, five if, as I think necessary, we want to explore >non-affine transformations. Fills become more complex, since you are now >talking about volume fills vs. surface fills. Do clip-paths become >clip-regions? In other words, its certainly doable, but it holds a whole >host of related issues that pop up. > >I think what may be better would be for the Web 3D consortium, when they >propose X3D into the W3C, to view it as a first pass towards a full >reconciliation between SVG and X3D. You can essentially define a surface >within an X3D that acts as the rendering canvas for an SVG graphic. X3D2 and >SVG agree upon a common set of XML Events, with X3D2 essentially adopting >the SMIL architecture. The RAX story with SVG 1.2 also needs to be resolved, >and this is one area where the two could very definitely share a common code >module. > >Just my two cents worth. > >-- Kurt > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com> >To: <metaphorical@yahoogroups.com> >Cc: <huml@lists.oasis-open.org> >Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:50 PM >Subject: Re: [metaphorical] "Event Loops, XSLT, and XForms" and SVG > > >> I'm copying this to the HumanMarkup TC list because Len Bullard was >> named to the Web 3D Consortium Board, and mentioned that there had >> been some moves to build a z-axis into SVG for 3D, and I would like >> to know what this list sees in that. >> >> Ciao, >> Rex >> >> >> >At the end the "Event Loops, XSLT and XForms" section of Kurt's >> >latest newsletter he mentions using SVG as the principal language for >> >GUIs on the internet, which definitely strikes chord with what I've >> >been pitching. I'll be talking about using SVG to create Declarative >> >UIs at the XML DevCon later this week. >> > >> >The word is out that the next MS OS will be using an XML based Vector >> >Graphics language to create its UI, and will render to DirectX, so >> >talking about using SVG to do the same for other platforms is the way >> >to go. It will definitely make cross platform UIs a whole lot easier >> >than the current HTML model. And don't get me going about XUL. It >> >is good, and can be used in this model, but it would need to be >> >rendered to SVG, not directly to the graphics API layer. This way >> >you could create your own UI elements, mix them with XUL, and have >> >them rendered down to the same language before going to the graphics >> >API. >> > >> >DonXML >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> >metaphorical-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> -- >> Rex Brooks >> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth >> W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com >> Email: rexb@starbourne.com >> Tel: 510-849-2309 >> Fax: By Request >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> metaphorical-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> >Save on Coral Calcium. Get Better Health and >Stronger Bones. Seen on TV >http://www.challengerone.com/t/l.asp?cid-2805&lp=calcium2.asp >http://us.click.yahoo.com/9gf46B/EfUGAA/ySSFAA/IHFolB/TM >---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >metaphorical-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Rex Brooks GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com Email: rexb@starbourne.com Tel: 510-849-2309 Fax: By Request
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