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Thanks Sylvia, I'm very busy this morning, so I will either try to get to this in the afternoon or tomorrow morning. Ciao, Rex >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:45 -0600 >From: cognite@zianet.com >To: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com> >Subject: Re: [huml] Monthly TC Meeting Minutes for 10-15-03 >Reply-To: cognite@zianet.com >X-Rcpt-To: <rexb@starbourne.com> >X-DPOP: Version number supressed >Status: U > >a few re-wordings suggested.... Did you mean to include Chandra's >statement? (see below). >Thanks, Rex. Replying right away while it's not too remote under new work. ;) >SC > > >On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:48:23 -0700 >Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Here are the minutes for this month's meeting: >> >> October 15, 2003 >> >> Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical Committee. >> >> USA Toll Free Number: 888-576-9014 >> USA Toll Number: +1-773-756-0201 >> >> Roll Call: >> Voting Members: >> >> Rex Brooks >> Sylvia Candelaria deRam >> Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga >> Russell Ruggiero >> Joseph Norris >> Len Bullard >> >> Propsective Member: >> Chandrashekar Tamirisa >> >> Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks >> >> Meeting convened 12:05 p.m. Eastern Time. >> >> Previous meeting minutes accepted. >> >> This meeting was held on the normally scheduled third Wednesday of >>the Month. >> >> We had a quorum. >> >> As usual, some of these items were actually discussed in a somewhat >> different sequence from this summary. >> >> We began considering old business with subcommittee reports. >> >> Rex reported that he had begun work on an outreach letter for HPCDML >> SC, but was holding off on completing it until James returns from >> England to provide feedback in suggestions, comments and critiques as >> well as additional contactees. He also said that he was ready to >> resubmit his Facial Musculoskeletal to the Humanoid Animation Group >> of the Web 3D Consortium. Len noted that it appeared to him, as a >> member of the Web 3D Consortium Board of Directors that interest in >> actively expanding the activities and promotion of support for >> VRML/X3D was increasing. Rex thought that this would be a good >> coincidence, and would bode well for both H-Anim and HumanML/HPCDML. >> Rex also mentioned that Sandy Ressler was working on a table for >> mapping equivalent terminology from CAESAR to H-Anim and is willing >> to work with the HPCDML SC on extending this table of equivalent >> terminology to include HPCDML, or for HPCDML to include the table as >> part of its work. >> >> Rob Nixon was invited to attend and reported that he has had to allow >> his OASIS membership to lapse temporarily but was willing to work >> with Sylvia, who has stepped up to take on the role of leading the >> work to finish originating work on the Charter and Mission Statement >> for the prospective Cognition in Environments Subcommittee. >> >> Sylvia reported that she had been > >>reviewing email > >reviewing earlier communications and documents in preparation >>on the subcommittee >> topics, >>and had decided to > >and that >focus on vocabulary preparation >would be appropriate. >Specifically, constructing a straw-man vocabulary method such as Len had >prepared had worked well in preparing the huml base vocabulary. >Along with cognitive >function terms from materials looked at earlier in the year, >terms describing artifacts -- as things thought about -- that comprise > >>use as a model OMIT THESE WORDS > >>the Conceptual Resource >> Model of the ICOM/CIDOC. She noted that she had joined the CIDOC CRM >> SIG >>during the presentation > >at the time of the huml presentation > >>she and James made this March, and that > >> she thought the OMIT >>broad overview technique with comprehensive attention OMIT >> to providing for the framework was a good OMIT > >their carefully thought out and use-tested base might provide a suitable > >>place to start. > >Concrete examination of how the [RDF-compatible] structure could be >implemented >with OOP classes began study of CRM suitability for encoding cognition in >environments. > >> >> Because Chandra was not in attendance, we did not spend much time >> discussing >>the > >what might be involved in acommodating to his goals in > > >>transition >ing > >> from Ranjeeth's vision of a Diplomacy SC >, changed upon suggestions of their pre-eminence in the area >> that was required OMIT >>by both the State Department and the e-Gov TC >>, CHANGE TO ( >> which he joined to remain in position for liaison work in the future >>, CHANGE TO ). >> to be changed. OMIT > >>Recalling that at the last TC meeting it was suggested >> that Conflict Resolution was too negative a name and that something >> along the lines of "Bridging Perspectives" had been suggested, there >> was some discussion along these lines. Rex voiced the opinion that >> whatever name is chosen needs to have immediate and unmistakable >> recognition, based on a body of existing work, to avoid confusion. >> This actually resulted in a brief moment of confusion as to which >> subcommittee he was referring with his comment due to his >> transposition of Cognition for Diplomacy while speaking. The >> confusion was cleared up by correcting the error, and we noted that >> this issue was still moot with the new chair volunteer > >not being > >>present to >> join the discussion. >> >> We then moved on >>the OMIT > >to > >>listen to Russell report on the conferences and >> meetings he attended in Washington, D.C. Monday and Tuesday, >> September 29, 30, 2003. >> >> Monday > >morning >, he attended the XML Authoring and Editing Conference by >> invitation of Owen Ambur co-chair of the federal XML.GOV Working >> Group > >.. > >> Monday morning and reported that OMIT > > >his --> His > > >>brief report on the >> HumanML effort was well received. He was able to renew the HumanML >> effort's close connection to Mr. Ambur. He was subsequent > >ly > >> invited to >> following >>conference's OMIT > >conferences > >> including the XML.GOV meeting the morning of >> our TC Meeting, Oct. 15, 2003. We have also been invited to >> participate in several other ongoing, related governmental, xml-based >> interoperability programs and projects. >> >> After the Authoring Conference, Russell went to an appointment with >> Ms. Illa > >Ila? > >>Brown, former Chief of Communications for the Department of >> Homeland Security >>, OMIT > >>(DHS), now with Oracle Corporation where she has >> served as head of the effort to work with the DHS > >.. They >> where he OMIT > >> discussed >> our collaboration/liaison with Humanmarkup.org, Inc.'s New York >> Academy of Medicine Portal Project, and other areas of possible >> overlap. > We >>adjourned at about 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time. MOVE TO END > >> He reported >> that his appointment went well. >> >> Tuesday, he attended the EA Collaboration Workshop Sponsored by the >> Emerging Technology Subcommittee, Architecture and Infrastructure >> Committee and the National Coordination Office for Information >> Technology Research & Development by invitation from >> >> Susan B. Turnbull, Senior Program Advisor, GSA >> Office of Intergovernmental Solutions, Office of Citizen Services and >> Communications >> Emerging Technology Subcommittee, Architecture and Infrastructure >> Committee, CIOC >> 202-501-6214 >> susan.turnbull@gsa.gov > >To wit, > >--- >> >> Agenda - September 30, 2003 >> Collaboration Expedition Workshop #28 >> National Science Foundation Board Room, 12TH floor, Room 1235 >> >> >> Purpose: To explore the Potential and Realities of Intergovernmental >> Communities of Practice as Innovation Catalysts in an "Intangibles" Economy >> The President's Management Agenda requires all federal agencies to >> transform the roles and relationships among people, processes, and >> technology in order to become a citizen-centered government. The Federal >> Enterprise Architecture provides a blueprint for organizing lines of >> business around shared mission purpose. > >--- >> >> It was at this workshop that Russell met Mr. Chandrashekar Tamirisa, >> Division of Research and Statistics >> Board of Governors, Federal Reserve Board, who has joined our TC and >> volunteered to take the chair of the former Diplomacy/Conflict > > Resolution/Perspective Bridging SC, and has a project for > >HumanML > >> consideration which has the working title, "Global Development >> Perspectives." The secretary chose to include > >> this OMIT? > >his > >> statement here in >> order to show how it fits into the framework of governmental contacts >> and activities with which we have become associated, and with which >> we hope to continue to work on positive projects to move forward >> toward mutual goals and objectives. > >--- > >.... > >(Chandra Tamirisa, DATE) >--- > > >> >> In conjunction with this workshop, Russell attended the meeting of >> the XML Web Services Working Group headed by Brand Niemann, which is >> another effort by the Federal Government for which it is perhaps a >> good idea to examine the organizational working charter of this >> COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE: >> >> http://www.web-services.gov/#link4 >> >> The URL above contains the complete information including reference >> links for the excerpt which follows for the purpose of including an >> understanding of this important practical organizational concept >> which is being used currently with the federal government, and with >> which we are now aligned in many ways, due to the co-membership of >> Ranjeeth in > >OASIS > >>e-Gov TC and Rex in Emergency Management TC. > >--- >> >> "Government Semantic XML Web Services Community of Practice (SWS-CoP) >> >> in cooperation with the Government XML Working Group, the Universal >> Access Collaboration Workshops, Emerging Components, Government >> Enterprise Architecture Framework (GEAF) Components Registry and >> Repository, and other Communities of Practice (CoP). >> >> Web Server (courtesy of USGS Geology Division CIO's Office): >> http://web-services.gov, GSA ListServ (courtesy of GSA CIO's Office): >> http://listserv.gsa.gov/archives/cioc-web-services.html, and >> Collaboration Place (courtesy of GSA's CIO's Office of >> Government-wide Policy): http://ioa-qpnet-co.gsa.gov/WebServices >> >> ... >> >> The purpose of this CoP is to support the Emerging Technology >> Subcommittee of the CIOC/AIC in its work with the other two >> subcommittees (Enterprise Architecture Governance and Components) and >> the e-Gov Initiatives in their use of Semantic XML Web Services to >> demonstrate increased accessibility and interoperability ..." > >--- > >> >> Russell mentioned that he perceived Brand Niemann of the xml >> web-services wg along with the Owen Ambur of the xml.gov wg as being >> more focused on tangible demonstrations such as web sites and >> documents of record than with verbal descriptions > >, --> ; > >>hence it is >> advisable, he thinks >, > >> for us to provide such materials in our future >> efforts to maintain and build upon our contacts with these >> individuals and their respective working groups. >> >> Russell also discussed at some length the xml.gov meeting he had >> attended via Web Ex teleconference the morning of our meeting, where, >> in the context of Government Performance and Results Act of 1993 >> (GPRA) discussions >, > >> the following presentations of XML Authoring Tools >> were given >> >> 9:10 Basic XSD for GPRA Strategic Plans, using DOE's as an Example >> for Conversion to XML >> Bert Sheingate, HyperVision (via WebEx) >> Assisted by Jon Barrett, Hummingbird, a HyperVision partner >> >> 9:50 XMetaL Customization for Creating/Editing/Viewing ET Stage 1 >> Instance Documents >> Jay Di Silvestri, Corel (via WebEx) >> >> Russel >l > > >> said that these showed the relationships between documents and >> the schemata to which they belonged, or from which they were produced >> and also mentioned that it was reported that Windows 2003 products >> like Word will now be using XML as native, rather than as referenced >> instructions/rules. This demonstrates the commitment of the major >> business computing platform to a thorough-going implementation of XML. >> >> Russell closed his report by saying that we have been invited to >> attend the first >> Quarterly Emerging Components Conference: >> Fostering a Component Technology Ma >r > > >ketplace for eGovernment with SBIR/STR, >> at the White House Conference Center, >> October 20th (see attached for details, register at > > http://www.componenttechnology.org/Emerging/OtherParty/, and see >> http://web-services.gov, >> Announcements, September 16th, and Past Meetings and Presentations, > > September 30th). >> >> And, we also have been invited, as we are every month, to the next > > >EA --> ?? (EA) > >> Collaboration Workshop Oct. 28, 2003. >> >> Russell also mentioned that he has been in touch with Thomson Media >> and that they have indicated that they will be publishing the >> article, "Are We Ready for the Next Web," by he and Rex soon, and >> that he has contacted another writer who may be interested in >> learning more about us. As this writer is an Anthropologist as well >> as the author of an article titled, "Culture Clashes" in CIO >> Magazine, such a person stands to be a great addition to our team if >> she is sufficiently intrigued by our work. >> >> Len mentioned an article he had posted to our list, and drew our >> attention to the author, Richard Cooper, as someone with an abiding >> interest in Ontologies and said that he would be referring Mr. Cooper >> to Rex in connection with our work both in Ontologies/Taxonomies and >> in Semiosis via Sowa's work in ontologies. >> >> These latter discussions occurred in the context of our ongoing >> outreach efforts, which are showing some results now, though several >> comments from this later discussion have been inserted out of >> sequence for their > >> pertinance --> pertinence > >>to other discussions. >> >> We adjourned at 12:55 p.m. Eastern Time. >> >> >> -- >> Rex Brooks >> GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth >> W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com >> Email: rexb@starbourne.com >> Tel: 510-849-2309 >> Fax: By Request >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the >>roster of the OASIS TC), go to >>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/huml/members/leave_workgroup.php. >> >> > > >-- > ;););) blessed are the geeks -- for they shall inherit the source code :):):) -- Rex Brooks GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com Email: rexb@starbourne.com Tel: 510-849-2309 Fax: By Request
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