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Subject: Fwd: Re: [huml] Monthly TC Meeting Minutes for 10-15-03


Thanks Sylvia,

I'm very busy this morning, so I will either try to get to this in 
the afternoon or tomorrow morning.

Ciao,
Rex

>Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 19:17:45 -0600
>From: cognite@zianet.com
>To: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
>Subject: Re: [huml] Monthly TC Meeting Minutes for 10-15-03
>Reply-To: cognite@zianet.com
>X-Rcpt-To: <rexb@starbourne.com>
>X-DPOP: Version number supressed
>Status: U
>
>a few re-wordings suggested....  Did you mean to include Chandra's 
>statement?  (see below).
>Thanks, Rex.  Replying right away while it's not too remote under new work. ;)
>SC
>
>
>On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:48:23 -0700
>Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Everyone,
>>
>>  Here are the minutes for this month's meeting:
>>
>>  October 15, 2003
>>
>>  Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical Committee.
>>
>>  USA Toll Free Number: 888-576-9014
>>  USA Toll Number: +1-773-756-0201
>>
>>  Roll Call:
>>  Voting Members:
>>
>>  Rex Brooks
>>  Sylvia Candelaria deRam
>>  Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
>>  Russell Ruggiero
>>  Joseph Norris
>>  Len Bullard
>>
>>  Propsective Member:
>>  Chandrashekar Tamirisa
>>
>>  Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
>>
>>  Meeting convened 12:05 p.m. Eastern Time.
>>
>>  Previous meeting minutes accepted.
>>
>>  This meeting was held on the normally scheduled third Wednesday of 
>>the Month.
>>
>>  We had a quorum.
>>
>>  As usual, some of these items were actually discussed in a somewhat
>>  different sequence from this  summary.
>>
>>  We began considering old business with subcommittee reports.
>>
>>  Rex reported that he had begun work on an outreach letter for HPCDML
>>  SC, but was holding off on completing it until James returns from
>>  England to provide feedback in suggestions, comments and critiques as
>>  well as additional contactees. He also said that he was ready to
>>  resubmit his Facial Musculoskeletal to the Humanoid Animation Group
>>  of the Web 3D Consortium. Len noted that it appeared to him, as a
>>  member of the Web 3D Consortium Board of Directors that interest in
>>  actively expanding the activities and promotion of support for
>>  VRML/X3D was increasing. Rex thought that this would be a good
>>  coincidence, and would bode well for both H-Anim and HumanML/HPCDML.
>>  Rex also mentioned that Sandy Ressler was working on a table for
>>  mapping equivalent terminology from CAESAR to H-Anim and is willing
>>  to work with the HPCDML SC on extending this table of equivalent
>>  terminology to include HPCDML, or for HPCDML to include the table as
>>  part of its work.
>>
>>  Rob Nixon was invited to attend and reported that he has had to allow
>>  his OASIS membership to lapse temporarily but was willing to work
>>  with Sylvia, who has stepped up to take on the role of leading the
>>  work to finish originating work on the Charter and Mission Statement
>>  for the prospective Cognition in Environments Subcommittee.
>>
>>  Sylvia reported that she had been
>
>>reviewing email
>
>reviewing earlier communications and documents in preparation
>>on the subcommittee
>>  topics,
>>and had decided to
>
>and that
>focus on vocabulary preparation
>would be appropriate.
>Specifically, constructing a straw-man vocabulary method such as Len had
>prepared had worked well in preparing the huml base vocabulary. 
>Along with cognitive
>function terms from materials looked at earlier in the year,
>terms describing artifacts -- as things thought about -- that comprise
>
>>use as a model OMIT THESE WORDS
>
>>the Conceptual Resource
>>  Model of the ICOM/CIDOC. She noted that she had joined the CIDOC CRM
>>  SIG
>>during the presentation
>
>at the time of the huml presentation
>
>>she and James made this March, and that
>
>>  she thought the OMIT
>>broad overview technique with comprehensive attention OMIT
>>  to providing for the framework was a good OMIT
>
>their carefully thought out and use-tested base might provide a suitable
>
>>place to start.
>
>Concrete examination of how the [RDF-compatible] structure could be 
>implemented
>with OOP classes began study of CRM suitability for encoding cognition in
>environments.
>
>>
>>  Because Chandra was not in attendance, we did not spend much time
>>  discussing
>>the
>
>what might be involved in acommodating to his goals in
>
>
>>transition
>ing
>
>>  from Ranjeeth's vision of a Diplomacy SC
>, changed upon suggestions of their pre-eminence in the area
>>  that was required OMIT
>>by both the State Department and the e-Gov TC
>>, CHANGE TO (
>>  which he joined to remain in position for liaison work in the future
>>, CHANGE TO ).
>>  to be changed. OMIT
>
>>Recalling that at the last TC meeting it was suggested
>>  that Conflict Resolution was too negative a name and that something
>>  along the lines of "Bridging Perspectives" had been suggested, there
>>  was some discussion along these lines. Rex voiced the opinion that
>>  whatever name is chosen needs to have immediate and unmistakable
>>  recognition, based on a body of existing work, to avoid confusion.
>>  This actually resulted in a brief moment of confusion as to which
>>  subcommittee he was referring with his comment due to his
>>  transposition of Cognition for Diplomacy while speaking. The
>>  confusion was cleared up by correcting the error, and we noted that
>>  this issue was still moot with the new chair volunteer
>
>not being
>
>>present to
>>  join the discussion.
>>
>>  We then moved on
>>the OMIT
>
>to
>
>>listen to Russell report on the conferences and
>>  meetings he attended in Washington, D.C. Monday and Tuesday,
>>  September 29, 30, 2003.
>>
>>  Monday
>
>morning
>, he attended the XML Authoring and Editing Conference by
>>  invitation of  Owen Ambur co-chair of the federal XML.GOV Working
>>  Group
>
>..
>
>>  Monday morning and reported that OMIT
>
>
>his --> His
>
>
>>brief report on the
>>  HumanML effort was well received. He was able to renew the HumanML
>>  effort's close connection to Mr. Ambur. He was subsequent
>
>ly
>
>>  invited to
>>  following
>>conference's OMIT
>
>conferences
>
>>  including the XML.GOV meeting the morning of
>>  our TC Meeting, Oct. 15, 2003. We have also been invited to
>>  participate in several other ongoing, related governmental, xml-based
>>  interoperability programs and projects.
>>
>>  After the Authoring Conference, Russell went to an appointment with
>>  Ms. Illa
>
>Ila?
>
>>Brown, former Chief of Communications for the Department of
>>  Homeland Security
>>, OMIT
>
>>(DHS), now with Oracle Corporation where she has
>>  served as head of the effort to work with the DHS
>
>..  They
>>  where he OMIT
>
>>  discussed
>>  our collaboration/liaison with Humanmarkup.org, Inc.'s New York
>>  Academy of Medicine Portal Project, and other areas of possible
>>  overlap.
>   We
>>adjourned at about 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time.    MOVE TO END
>
>>  He reported
>>  that his appointment went well.
>>
>>  Tuesday, he attended the EA Collaboration Workshop Sponsored by the
>>  Emerging Technology Subcommittee, Architecture and Infrastructure
>>  Committee and the National Coordination Office for Information
>>  Technology Research & Development by invitation from
>>
>>  Susan B. Turnbull, Senior Program Advisor, GSA
>>  Office of Intergovernmental Solutions, Office of Citizen Services and
>>  Communications
>>  Emerging Technology Subcommittee, Architecture and Infrastructure
>>  Committee, CIOC
>>  202-501-6214
>>  susan.turnbull@gsa.gov
>
>To wit,
>
>---
>>
>>                          Agenda  - September 30, 2003
>>                      Collaboration Expedition Workshop #28
>>          National Science Foundation Board Room, 12TH floor, Room 1235
>>
>>
>>  Purpose: To explore the Potential and Realities of Intergovernmental
>>  Communities of Practice as Innovation Catalysts in an "Intangibles" Economy
>>  The President's Management Agenda requires all federal agencies to
>>  transform the roles and relationships among people, processes, and
>>  technology in order to become a citizen-centered government. The Federal
>>  Enterprise Architecture provides a blueprint for organizing lines of
>>  business around shared mission purpose.
>
>---
>>
>>  It was at this workshop that Russell met Mr. Chandrashekar Tamirisa,
>>  Division of Research and Statistics
>>  Board of Governors, Federal Reserve Board, who has joined our TC and
>>  volunteered to take the chair of the former Diplomacy/Conflict
>  > Resolution/Perspective Bridging SC, and has a project for
>
>HumanML
>
>>  consideration which has the working title, "Global Development
>>  Perspectives." The secretary chose to include
>
>>  this OMIT?
>
>his
>
>>  statement here in
>>  order to show how it fits into the framework of governmental contacts
>>  and activities with which we have become associated, and with which
>>  we hope to continue to work on positive projects to move forward
>>  toward mutual goals and objectives.
>
>---
>
>....
>
>(Chandra Tamirisa, DATE)
>---
>
>
>>
>>  In conjunction with this workshop, Russell attended the meeting of
>>  the XML Web Services Working Group headed by Brand Niemann, which is
>>  another effort by the Federal Government for which it is perhaps a
>>  good idea to examine the organizational working charter of this
>>  COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE:
>>
>>  http://www.web-services.gov/#link4
>>
>>  The URL above contains the complete information including reference
>>  links for the excerpt which follows for the purpose of including an
>>  understanding of this important practical organizational concept
>>  which is being used currently with the federal government, and with
>>  which we are now aligned in many ways, due to the co-membership of
>>  Ranjeeth in
>
>OASIS
>
>>e-Gov TC and Rex in Emergency Management TC.
>
>---
>>
>>  "Government Semantic XML Web Services Community of Practice (SWS-CoP)
>>
>>  in cooperation with the Government XML Working Group, the Universal
>>  Access Collaboration Workshops, Emerging Components, Government
>>  Enterprise Architecture Framework (GEAF) Components Registry and
>>  Repository, and other Communities of Practice (CoP).
>>
>>  Web Server (courtesy of USGS Geology Division CIO's Office):
>>  http://web-services.gov, GSA ListServ (courtesy of GSA CIO's Office):
>>  http://listserv.gsa.gov/archives/cioc-web-services.html, and
>>  Collaboration Place (courtesy of GSA's CIO's Office of
>>  Government-wide Policy): http://ioa-qpnet-co.gsa.gov/WebServices
>>
>>  ...
>>
>>  The purpose of this CoP is to support the Emerging Technology
>>  Subcommittee of the CIOC/AIC in its work with the other two
>>  subcommittees (Enterprise Architecture Governance and Components) and
>>  the e-Gov Initiatives in their use of Semantic XML Web Services to
>>  demonstrate increased accessibility and interoperability ..."
>
>---
>
>>
>>  Russell mentioned that he perceived Brand Niemann of the xml
>>  web-services wg along with the Owen Ambur of the xml.gov wg as being
>>  more focused on tangible demonstrations such as web sites and
>>  documents of record than with verbal descriptions
>
>, --> ;
>
>>hence it is
>>  advisable, he thinks
>,
>
>>  for us to provide such materials in our future
>>  efforts to maintain and build upon our contacts with these
>>  individuals and their respective working groups.
>>
>>  Russell also discussed at some length the xml.gov meeting he had
>>  attended via Web Ex teleconference the morning of our meeting, where,
>>  in the context of Government Performance and Results Act of 1993
>>  (GPRA) discussions
>,
>
>>  the following presentations of XML Authoring Tools
>>  were given
>>
>>  9:10	Basic XSD for GPRA Strategic Plans, using DOE's as an Example
>>  for Conversion to XML
>>		Bert Sheingate, HyperVision (via WebEx)
>>		Assisted by Jon Barrett, Hummingbird, a HyperVision partner
>>
>>  9:50	XMetaL Customization for Creating/Editing/Viewing ET Stage 1
>>  Instance Documents
>>		Jay Di Silvestri, Corel (via WebEx)
>>
>>  Russel
>l
>
>
>>  said that these showed the relationships between documents and
>>  the schemata to which they belonged, or from which they were produced
>>  and also mentioned that it was reported that Windows 2003 products
>>  like Word will now be using XML as native, rather than as referenced
>>  instructions/rules. This demonstrates the commitment of the major
>>  business computing platform to a thorough-going implementation of XML.
>>
>>  Russell closed his report by saying that we have been invited to
>>  attend the first
>>  Quarterly Emerging Components Conference:
>>  Fostering a Component Technology Ma
>r
>
>
>ketplace for eGovernment with SBIR/STR,
>>  at the White House Conference Center,
>>  October 20th (see attached for  details, register at
>  > http://www.componenttechnology.org/Emerging/OtherParty/, and see
>>  http://web-services.gov,
>>  Announcements, September 16th, and Past Meetings and Presentations,
>  > September 30th).
>>
>>  And, we also have been invited, as we are every month, to the next
>
>
>EA  --> ?? (EA)
>
>>  Collaboration Workshop Oct. 28, 2003.
>>
>>  Russell also mentioned that he has been in touch with Thomson Media
>>  and that they have indicated that they will be publishing the
>>  article, "Are We Ready for the Next Web," by he and Rex soon, and
>>  that he has contacted another writer who may be interested in
>>  learning more about us. As this writer is an Anthropologist as well
>>  as the author of an article titled, "Culture Clashes" in CIO
>>  Magazine, such a person stands to be a great addition to our team if
>>  she is sufficiently intrigued by our work.
>>
>>  Len mentioned an article he had posted to our list, and drew our
>>  attention to the author, Richard Cooper, as someone with an abiding
>>  interest in Ontologies and said that he would be referring Mr. Cooper
>>  to Rex in connection with our work both in Ontologies/Taxonomies and
>>  in Semiosis via Sowa's work in ontologies.
>>
>>  These latter discussions occurred in the context of our ongoing
>>  outreach efforts, which are showing some results now, though several
>>  comments from this later discussion have been inserted out of
>>  sequence for their
>
>>  pertinance --> pertinence
>
>>to other discussions.
>>
>>  We adjourned at 12:55 p.m. Eastern Time.
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  Rex Brooks
>>  GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
>>  W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
>>  Email: rexb@starbourne.com
>>  Tel: 510-849-2309
>>  Fax: By Request
>>
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>
>
>--
>  ;););) blessed are the geeks -- for they shall inherit the source code :):):)


-- 
Rex Brooks
GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
Email: rexb@starbourne.com
Tel: 510-849-2309
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