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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That's
good feedback. On the other hand, it may be that if one can
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>create
models which are recognizable across cultures, that is, given
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>a
sample distribution, most identify the state correctly most of the
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>time,
the model is good. That is why I focus on simulations. BTW,
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>the
'variety of factors' is why we have an abstract set of categories
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>in the
schema. It enables one to derive multiple theories and relate
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>them
according to the types. A weak ontology for describing factors
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>related to communication. One of the plagues of HumanML as a
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>project was its overselling as a predictive model or as a complete
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>and
accurate description of the human condition.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
fundamental problem of HumanML, reiterated from time to time
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>since
we started, is that the best it can do is model. It is weakly
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>predictive for any given instance. The amount of data required for
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>statistically significant results is overwhelming and potentially,
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<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>non-linear dynamic (multiple feedback paths).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=711410221-24102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>ln</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> James Landrum
[mailto:james.landrum@ndsu.nodak.edu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 24, 2003
3:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Bullard, Claude L (Len)<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Rex Brooks';
'huml@lists.oasis-open.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [huml] Walk Like An
Egyptian<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I just had a short chat with Charles Musiba, our
Biological Anthropologist, and he has some reservations about the gait
item:<BR>1. It is difficult at best to model cross-culturally the gait
and emotional states of individuals and more difficult to develop a prediction
model for determining emotional states based on gait, especially regarding
cross cultural aspects of human behavior, without a significant range of data,
and this includes accounting for a variety of factors, not the least of
which include:<BR>2. Gait is determined greatly by natural environment, e.g.,
the substrate (ground surface) conditions, e.g., smooth level sidewalk versus
rocky inclined or uneven ground<BR>3. the cultural environment, e.g., people
in heavily populated urban areas walk much differently than people who reside
in suburban or rural areas <BR><BR>Charles, in collaboration with other
researchers at U. Chicago, conducted a study on gait in 1995 and will send me
a copy of the article, which I will forward to the list when I receive
it.<BR><BR>Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
cite=mid15725CF6AFE2F34DB8A5B4770B7334EE03F9EDF8@hq1.pcmail.ingr.com
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">If one could obtain the modeling tool used and get that
to output H-anim, one could then create the cultural
libraries that cross-index to the emotional vocabularies.
Because X3D enables attachable behaviors, one then has
the base sets for many kinds of simulations and games.
Likely, they know that too as do the Aussie research
groups.
BTW: See Tim Bray's blog
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/10/21/HumanUniversals";>http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/10/21/HumanUniversals</A>
where he is studying Pinker.
len
From: Rex Brooks [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:rexb@starbourne.com";>mailto:rexb@starbourne.com</A>]
Indeed, this is interesting and interesting too to check cultural
factors with follow up experiments.
At 1:05 PM -0500 10/24/03, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Now here is a neat application. Note the use of controls based
on emotional state to adjust the behavioral presentation.
<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.bml.psy.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Demos/BMLwalker.html";>http://www.bml.psy.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Demos/BMLwalker.html</A>
Thanks to George Birblis on the VRMLBigList for finding this one.
It would be interesting to see how these were derived and if
they are cross-cultural.
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