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Subject: TC Meeting Minutes 5-29-04
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 07:56:16 -0700
Title: TC Meeting Minutes 5-29-04
Hi Everyone,
Here are the minutes for this month's TC meeting, with the usual
caveats--please check and correct where necessary:
Here are the minutes for this month's
meeting:
May 26, 2004
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
Committee.
Dial in toll free: 877 950 6921
outside of USA toll: 1 203 277 0324
Roll Call:
Voting Members:
Rex Brooks
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Russell Ruggiero
James Landrum III
Sylvia Candelaria de Ram
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened 12:05 p.m. Eastern Time.
Minutes of previous meeting accepted.
This meeting was held on the alternature normally scheduled fourth
Wednesday of the Month.
We had a quorum. As a result, decisions indicated in these minutes are
approved.
We began by taking reports, starting with Sylvia's PyCon attendance in
March. Sylvia reported that it was an upbeat, positive conference that
began with software developments collaborations called 'sprints.' In
these Python programmers set a task or set of tasks for a software
program or set of components to perform, then take turns creating the
overall structure and subroutines, and any new packages needed to
complete the task, testing as they go.
Sylvia mentioned that one development in particular was appropo to
some of our upcoming efforts, VOIP, in Python by Anthony Baxter from
Australia. She noted that Mitch Kapoor, noted inventor of Lotus 1-2-3
delivered the keynote address on his new Personail Information
Manager, PIM. Because it is proprietary, Kapoor's address, despite his
often-quoted stance in favor of the Open Source Movement exemplified
by the general PyCon membership, was not well-received.
Sylvia noted that there was a discussion about which XML standards the
Python community ought to support, particularly those put forward
within or indepedently of standards organization by the largest
vendors, such as Microsoft and IBM. In the course of the discussion
OASIS was brought up. This revealed a lack of understanding about what
OASIS is and does and how it is organized, which Sylvia was able to
step forward and explain.
Sylvia reported that she had submitted her NSF Grant Proposal
addressing the topic of Human Social Dynamics but she was not sure
about whether the sbmission was accepted due to some technicalities
with regard to the deadline. She advised that such submissions go to
the administrative finance officer who usually wants a year of budget
by the submitting groups to validate the budgets submitted. So, it was
confirmed that this should be attempted wherever possible in our
pending grant proposal writing efforts.
James asked whether we wanted the good news or bad news first and we
chose the bad news and learned that the "Native Dancer"
proposal for continued funding had been declined a second time, and
that his team is reconsidering whether or not to continue the process
for a third round of rebuttals and adjustments. He said that his
project reviewers commented that the submission needed a bit more work
on the trial evaluation protocols and a larger medical component.
Sylvia suggested looking at a dance program in New York City which was
funded and might provide a successful model. (My notes are not clear
on that, so correct me if I that characterization is incorrect.)
We discussed this for a while with regard to the notion that the
reviewers had asked why the dance program did not also include more
contemporary pop culture elements such as hip hop since the target
audience is in the teen to early adult age range, which seemed
somewhat at odds with some previous criticism. James did make it clear
just how difficult a task it can be to work one's way through this
gauntlet. General consensus was that the more we know, and the more
individuals we can learn from who have negotiated these processes both
successfully and not, the better we can understand and adjust our own
efforts.
The good news from James was his full attendance, and Rex's partial
attendance at the recent Electronic Cultural Atlas Initiative
Congress, a conference or symposium on GIS-based and indexed
organization and presentation of cultural data related to geographical
locations, a discipline which can be applied outside archeological and
anthropological arenas, as well. James also mentioned the work in
related areas by a UC Berkeley-based program called CITRIS, Center for
Information Technology Research in the Interst of Society, whose
director, Ruzena Bajcsy, gave a well-received presentation on CITRIS
in relation to the Cultural Atlas Initiative. In particular, this
group tackles aspects of emergency response which intersect with the
liaison work Rex is doing with Emergency Management and the Common
Alerting Protocol, CAP.
Rex said that contacting CITRIS is a priority he will attend to
shortly.
Russell reported that he will be attending the 4th Quarterly
Conference on Emerging Technology Components on June 3rd, in
Washington, D.C. Russell also reported that the demonstration that we
have planned with Level 8 Systems on using CAP and WSRP as well as
WSDL-based Registries with security and access control standards is
proceeding.
Likewise, Russell noted, we have good contacts in government for
presenting the new technologies we have cultivated and with which
HumanML will be working. Indeed, he reported, these indviduals include
us among those to whom they look for information about emerging
technologies. Russell reported that the databases in the Department of
Homeland Security, DHS, are mentioned in a May 24th New York Times
article under the headline of "US Nearing Deal on Tracking
Foreign Visitors," which coincides with our interests and the
impending publication of his latest article on Government and IT
Directives which detail the intricacies of these new and emerging
technologies within the consolidation being conducted within DHS. This
article and the others he and Rex have collaborated upon continue to
strengthen our credibility and the credibility of our sister
organization, Humanmarkup.org, Inc.
This issue of credibility concerned Rex in his report, saying that the
Java Location Services Newsletter devoted to CAP was now out,
coinciding with Russell's latest efforts. In addition, Rex noted,
these efforts are aimed, if possible, to build up to the
demonstrations and presentations he is attempting to organize. In that
regard, he reported that he had made an excellent contact with the
Manager of the Community Warning System within the the Office of the
Sheriff of Contra Costa County in the SF Bay Area, whose programs
serve as national prototypes and which have long been focused on using
CAP. This is particularly important, Rex said, because it is a
concrete example that will be working in real time along with several
others as components of the demonstrations and presentations we are
planning.
Rex also reported that he had started working on the revision of the
Primary Base Schema and hoped to have the latest revision ready for a
vote by the next TC meeting, but said that the end of June was more
likely.
Ranjeeth reported that he had set up a new remote workstation which
Rex would be using both for some programming work on the areas related
to the grant proposals under way as well as the Primary Base Schema.
It was then further suggested, as new business, that we should use
this facility through partitions in the 120 GB hard disk on the remote
machine, or else on the other remote computer Ranjeeth could set up,
as a test bed for developing HumanML-based applications. We agreed to
explore that possiblity further.
We adjourned at 12:55 p.m. Eastern Time.
--
Rex Brooks
GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
Email: rexb@starbourne.com
Tel: 510-849-2309
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