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Subject: Re: [id-cloud] Minutes of TC Meeting on 23 April 2010 [Draft]
Roll Call Added (Thanks to Secretary Abbie Barbir): Members Attended (who gained voting status): Timothy Christin Acxiom John Dilley Akamai Technologies Jeffrey Broberg CA Tom Bishop Conformity Mare Lucas GCE Robert Cope Homeland Security Consultants Heather Hinton IBM David Kern IBM Kelvin Lawrence IBM Matthew Rutkowski IBM Abbie Barbir Individual John Bradley Individual Gershon Janssen Individual Michael Stiefel Individual Thomas Hardjono M.I.T. Anthony Nadalin Microsoft Corporation Dale Olds Novell Peter Brown Pensive S.A. Patrick Harding Ping Identity Corporation Anil Saldhana Red Hat Bill Becker SafeNet, Inc. Micah Willbrand Serasa S.A. Richard Sand Skyworth TTG Holdings Limited Darren Platt Symplified John Tolbert The Boeing Company Daniel Turissini WidePoint Corporation Observers: Siddharth Bajaj VeriSign Peter Davis Neustar Alan Clark Novell Stavros Isaiadis Fujitsu Limited Steven Wierenga Hewlett-Packard Oasis Staff: Robin Cover OASIS Mary McRae OASIS Dee Schur OASIS Note: If Observers want to become Members, then they have to leave the group, then register themselves as members (company primary representative will need to approve your member registration). On 04/23/2010 03:09 PM, Anil Saldhana wrote: > Hi all, > this is just the draft of the minutes of the first TC meeting held > today. Please take a look at the summary and chat transcript. I will > gather the final roll and post it soon. > > Acknowledgments: > * Thanks to Mary McRae for the administrative support going in to the > 1st TC meeting. > * Thanks to Dee Schur for the member support in outreach and > successful participation by new Oasis members. > * Thanks to Abbie Barbir for being the convenor until the chair(s) > were elected and for the patience in taking the roll. :) > * Thanks to Peter Brown for the excellent chat room for TC use. > (http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/OASIS-ID-Cloud) > > Summary: > 1) Mary McRae made some introductions about Oasis, memberships and who > should be on the TC meeting. > 2) Roll Call was taken by Abbie Barbir, verified by Mary McRae. (Roll > will be provided soon) > 3) Call for nominations for Chair(s). > - Abbie nominated Anil Saldhana (Red Hat) and Tony Nadalin (Microsoft) > who accepted it personally and seconded by TC members. > 4) Anil Saldhana (Red Hat) and Tony Nadalim (Microsoft) elected as > co-chairs by unanimous consent. > 5) Mary went through legal stuff associated with Oasis. Described > everything in reasonable detail she sent out as important links by > email > (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/id-cloud/201004/msg00017.html) > 6) The chairs were invited to lead the meeting. Anil stepped forward > to lead the meeting with no objections from Tony (calling in from > Malaysia at 2am). > 7) Anil summarized the charter > (http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/id-cloud/charter.php) as "use > cases", "gaps" and "profiles". > 8) Discussion on holding regular TC meetings: > - Biweekly meetings schedule (instead of weekly meetings) was voted > with unanimous consent. > - Next TC meeting is set for May 7th at 1pm EDT. > - The schedule (time and day of week) is going to be decided by a > general poll(s) sent to the TC list. > 9) Abbie Barbir gave a brief introduction of the possibility of > holding a face to face meeting at the ITU-T workshop in June. > 10) Anil mentioned that we will discuss the possibilities of holding a > face to face meeting as an agenda item for the next meeting. > 11) Election of Secretaries for the TC. > - Abbie Barbir, John Bradley and Richard Sand were nominated, seconded > and approved with unanimous consent to be the secretaries of the TC. > 12) Specification Editors > - Tom Bishop (Conformity) and Heather Hinton (IBM) nominated > themselves to be the specification editors with no objections from the > TC members. > - Other editors will be added in future. > 13) Dee Schur, Oasis Staff who also functions as the program manager > of the Oasis IDTrust Member Section gave an introduction to the member > section and steering committee. This TC is part of the Oasis IDTrust > member section. > 14) Meeting adjourned with no objections. > > > Procedures for each TC meeting: > 1) Secretary takes the roll call. > 2) A volunteer is used to be the minute taker (the minutes do not have > to be very detailed. The key events of the TC meeting have to be > noted. Summaries of discussions sometime suffice). > 3) After each meeting, the minute taker posts the minutes to the tc > list for comment and feedback/corrections. > 4) At the next meeting, as an agenda item, the previous meeting(s) > minutes are approved via vote. > > > Chat Room Transcript:- > ==================================================== > Kelvin morphed into Kelvin Lawrence > > anonymous1 morphed into Kyle Austin > > anonymous morphed into Bob Cope > > anonymous2 morphed into David Kern > > Mary McRae: Hi Kyle, I don't see you listed on the TC roster ... > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: Hi all, I suggest adding your affiliation at the > end of your name such that people know. > > David Kern morphed into David Kern (IBM) > > Mary McRae morphed into Mary McRae, OASIS > > anonymous morphed into Jeff Broberg (CA) > > Kyle Austin morphed into Kyle Austin (TriCipher) > > Kyle Austin (TriCipher): sorry, i'm late in that i just got OASIS > paperwork resolved > > Mary McRae, OASIS: ok. thanks! > Kelvin Lawrence: Dialing in now > > Kelvin Lawrence: Paste it into the info section > > anonymous morphed into Stavros Isaiadis (Fujitsu) > > Kelvin Lawrence morphed into Kelvin Lawrence (IBM) > > anonymous morphed into Matt Rutkowski > > Matt Rutkowski morphed into Matt Rutkowski (IBM) > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): On now > > Matt Rutkowski (IBM): On call > > John Borras morphed into John Borras (Individual) > > anonymous morphed into Steve Wierenga (HP) observer > > John Borras (Individual) morphed into John Borras (Individual) Observer > > anonymous morphed into Tom Bishop (Conformity) > > anonymous morphed into Micah Willbrand > > anonymous1 morphed into Diego Crupnicoff (Mellanox) > > Micah Willbrand morphed into Micah Willbrand (Serasa Experian) > > anonymous5 morphed into John Bradley > > anonymous morphed into Dale Olds > > anonymous3 morphed into Peter Davis > > Bob Cope morphed into Bob Cope (Homeland Security Consultants) > > anonymous6 morphed into Thomas Hardjono (MIT) > > anonymous7 morphed into Richard Sand > > Dale Olds morphed into Dale Olds (Novell) > > anonymous2 morphed into Darren Platt > > anonymous4 morphed into Dan Turissini > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: Hi all, I suggest adding your affiliation at the > end of your name such that people know. (settings) > > Peter F Brown morphed into Peter F Brown (Individual) > > Richard Sand: Hello chat, I'll type minutes here > > anonymous8 morphed into Dee > > Peter Davis morphed into [Neustar] Peter Davis > > Peter F Brown (Individual): Can everyone not speaking please mute > their mikes > > Richard Sand morphed into Richard Sand, Skyworth TTG > > anonymous2 morphed into Frank Wray > > Frank Wray morphed into Frank Wray (PwC) > > Richard Sand, Skyworth TTG morphed into Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG) > > anonymous morphed into Mare Lucas (GCE) > > Dee: hi Dale > > Darren Platt morphed into Darren Platt (Symplified) > > anonymous2 morphed into Tim Christin > > Dale Olds (Novell): Hi Dee! > > [Neustar] Peter Davis: abbie, i am attending, but cannot speak at the > moment > > anonymous1 morphed into Michael Stiefel > > Dan Turissini morphed into Dan Turissini (WidePoint) > > Tim Christin morphed into Tim Christin (Acxiom) > > anonymous1 morphed into Siddharth Bajaj (VeriSign) > > Frank Wray (PwC) morphed into Frank Wray (PwC) observer > > anonymous morphed into Bill Becker (SafeNet) > > Dee: Dale is here > > Peter F Brown (Individual): I don't know whether you could heear me - > I am present > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter: think abbie got u > > anonymous morphed into jad (John Dilley) > > [Neustar] Peter Davis: good thanks > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter brown was noted. > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: peter davis, hi, not u I guess. > > Peter F Brown (Individual): @Anil: thx > > jad (John Dilley) morphed into John Dilley (Akamai) > > anonymous morphed into Heather Hinton (IBM) > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: heather hinton: hi. > > Micah Willbrand (Serasa Experian): I think you missed me during the > roll call. Micah Willbrand Serasa SA > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG)1 morphed into Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG) > > Dee morphed into Real Dale Olds > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): @Abbie could you paste the roll call summary > here please? - hard to follow who is on - thanks > > Dale Olds (Novell): Oh that's funny > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary proposed to allow all 26 members on > the call to be considered a voting member > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: @kelvin, the roster is the most challenging phase > of the tc initiation. > > Real Dale Olds morphed into Bandit > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Anil - I chair two other TC's - I know! > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Sorry who is speaking now? > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Abbie > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Abbie - proposes we have 2 TC chairs > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): before that was Mary McRae from OASIS > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil accepts nomination > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony accepts nomination > > Tom Bishop (Conformity): Richard, can you try to abut Affiliation to > names when they're being entered into "notes?" So, for example, you > would type "Anil/RedHat accepts nomination." Thanks! > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ok > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Tony Nadalin is from Microsoft , Richard > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): thank you > > anonymous morphed into Ricardo Koji Ushizaki > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony Nadalin from Microsoft accepts > nomination > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Any objects to Anil and Tony? > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony and Anil are accepted as chairs > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil has taken over leading this meeting > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil Saldhana from Redhat > > Bandit: Hi Dale > > Kelvin Lawrence (IBM): Congrats to the new chairs - as an OASIS Chair > myself I appreciate your time > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary McRae from OASIS: please everyone be > familiar with scope and charter > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary McRae from OASIS: your OASIS > memebership approves the IPR model: RF unlimited terms is used for > this committee > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 8 - disclosure obligations > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 9 - types of disclosures > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Section 10 - description of RF Unlimited > terms > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=id-cloud > (TC Home Page) > > Ricardo Koji Ushizaki morphed into Ricardo Koji Ushizaki (Serasa > Experian) > > anonymous morphed into Mark Robinton (HID Global) > > Mary McRae, OASIS: Charter - most important section is 'scope' - > defines what the TC can and cannot do. > > IPR Policy - by your being on this roster, you and you company have > agreed to the terms of the IPR Policy and the specific mode of this TC > (RF on Limited Terms). Section 8 describes your disclosure > obligations. Section 9 types of obligations (contribution and > participation). Section 10.2.3 defines RF on Limited Terms. > > TC Process > - successfully completed TC formation > - now it's your job to begin work on your deliverables > - TC process defines the various approval stages and the requirements > for each; save detail as you get closer to each milestone > > - in general: > > we are a very lightweight organization in terms of both policies and > staff; we do not provide secretariat services. TC members are > responsible for meeting minutes, agendas, specification editing, and > the like. That said, we are here to support you in any way we can - > member outreach, public relations, speaking opportunities, > demonstrations and interops, and certainly to help you navigate our > policies and processes. > > all work must be done on OASIS servers. your TC group includes the > roster, document repository, email, calendar, action items, and > electronic ballots. > > only members can participate (observers are read-only/listen-only) > > meetings must be scheduled in advance and must be quorate (greater > than 50% of voting members in attendance) in order to conduct business > > attend two consecutive meetings: gain voting rights; miss two > consecutive meetings: lose voting rights. > > minutes must be posted and include attendee list and all decisions > > discussions happen on tc email list: observers are automatically > subscribed as read-only; members can post. all emails are publicly > archived. public comment list to be used by observers, OASIS members > who are not members of the TC, or who are not OASIS members. > > If you are on the call but are not listed on the TC roster but your > company is an OASIS member, you must join the TC in order to > participate. Sign in with your OASIS login/password, and click the > 'join group' button. If you have any problems, please send me an email > and I'll be happy to help. > > Peter F Brown (Individual): And Tony was also awarded as an "OASIS > Distinguished Contributor" at our AGM earlier this week > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - Charter has 3 areas: 1) use cases, > 2) gap, 3)profile > > Anthony Nadalin: Anil, I'm in Malaysia and on skype and I cant really > hear very well and you all can't seem to hear me > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - gap analysis - as noted in the > charter, we don't intend to reinvent the wheel > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - 3rd step - generate profiles based > on use cases & gaps > > abbie: need to go on a different call > > abbie: congratulation to anil and tony > > Anthony Nadalin: OK, Hve fun > > Mary McRae, OASIS: thanks abbie > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - this is a good opportunity for all > to contribute requirements > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - there are out-of-scope items for > this committee > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - access control, levels of > assurance. we are not going to create any apis or new formats > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (anil please feel free to correct my > paraphrasing if its not accurate) > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): John - proposes mapping between use cases > and profiles > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (John can you type your full name & > company here?) > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - anything outside the charter needs > to be a new TC > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - next item, scheduling TC meeting > calls > > Anthony Nadalin: Its 2AM > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anthony what company are you with? > > Anthony Nadalin: Microsoft > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ty > > anonymous morphed into Zakir Magdum > > Zakir Magdum morphed into Zakir Magdum(MIT Lincoln Lab) > > Anthony Nadalin: Bi weekly > > Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Bi-weekly please. > > Darren Platt (Symplified): bi-weekly > > Anthony Nadalin: how about a poll on the time and day > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop (Confirmity) seconds the > motion for bi-weekly meetings > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): No objections, TC meetings will be bi-weekly > > Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Suggest we put up a ballot with 2 choices of > days/times. > > Anthony Nadalin: not friday > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - latter in the week? > > Anthony Nadalin: Agree Heather, set up a poll on Kavi > > Anthony Nadalin: or dootle pole > > Matt Rutkowski (IBM): agree with heather's suggestion > > Tom Bishop (Conformity): Yes, Mary, I've done this before as well, and > the two-time model is what has worked best... > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Heather - proposes sending out a > spreadsheet with potential times > > Anthony Nadalin: Do a dootle pole Anil > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): I dont see heather on the chat window > members - what is her full name & company? > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - this should be your favorite TC > [laughs] > > Anthony Nadalin: Heather Hinton (IBM) > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary - on this call we must come up with > a schedule for at least next meeting > > Tom Bishop (Conformity): I move we schedule our next meeting same > day/time (Friday), and then meantime poll for a better alternative... > > Tom Bishop (Conformity): Someone just said this... > > David Kern (IBM): Seconded > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed the same > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Friday, May 7, 1pm > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): any objections? > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop seconds > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): approved. next meeting will be May 7 at 1pm > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (who is speaking now?) > > anonymous morphed into Heather Hinton > > Anthony Nadalin: Tony was speaking > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed setting up a poll for times > and days for subsequent meetings > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tony proposed using "Dootle" > > Mary McRae, OASIS: doodle I think > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): sorry that does make a bit more sense > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): ok so doodle is seconded and approved > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - for next meeting we will discuss a > face-to-face meeting > > Anthony Nadalin: Bogota 6 times a year, John Bradley will host > > Anthony Nadalin: Last time I checked > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Mary - recommends members join Identity > and Trusted Infrastructure members section > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): (idtrust) > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - next topic - nomination of > secretary and specification editors > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop volunteers for spec editing > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Tom Bishop/Conformity > > Anthony Nadalin: Thanks Tom > > Anthony Nadalin: Thanks John > > Anthony Nadalin: I second John > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): I can also server as secretary > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): John Bradley, Richard Sand, Abbie are > committee secretaries > > Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Congrats and thanks to John, Richard & Abbie. > > Real Heather Hinton: I submit myself for spec editor > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Heather Hinton/IBM is approved as spec > editor > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): Anil - proposes we adjourn this meeting > > Thomas Hardjono (MIT): Bye all. > > Richard Sand (Skyworth TTG): thank you all > > AnilSaldhana_RedHat: thanks to everyone for the call. Richard, you can > send the minutes to the tc list. > ===================================== > > > Regards, > Anil
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