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Subject: Re: [id-cloud] Minutes from Oasis ID-Cloud TC call (13 December 2010)
On 12/13/2010 02:50 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > Folks, > > Here are the minutes from the ID-Cloud TC this week. > Apologies if I missed any discussion points or threads. > > /thomas/ > > ________________________ > > > Oasis ID-Cloud TC Meeting Minutes (13 Dec 2010) > ------------------------------------------------- > > [Notation: Q = question; A = answer; C = comment] > > > 1) Roll Call and Agenda Review: John Dilley Akamai Technologies Dale Moberg Axway Software Tom Bishop Conformity David Kern IBM Matthew Rutkowski IBM Thomas Hardjono M.I.T. Polina Alber Novell Dale Olds Novell Paul Madsen Ping Identity Corporation Anil Saldhana Red Hat Darran Rolls SailPoint Technologies Stephen Coplan The 451 Group John Tolbert The Boeing Company Siddharth Bajaj VeriSign Daniel Turissini WidePoint Corporation > - Quorum was NOT achieved. > - Added new agenda item: Liaison to Oasis-PSTC > > 2) Request Minute Taker: > - Thomas Hardjono minute taker. > > 3) Approval of TC Meeting Minutes from 29 Nov 2010: > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/id-cloud/email/archives/201012/msg00003.html > > - Approval deferred to next meeting due to lack of quorum. > > > 4) Liaison to the Oasis Provisioning Services TC (PSTC): > - Darran Rolls raised some of the work-items and > issues (being discussed in the ID-Cloud TC) to the PSTC. > > - PSTC indicated interest in some of these issues. > > - Darran will act as Liaison person from the PSTC to the ID-Cloud TC. > > - Anil will add Darran's name to the Wiki. > > > 5) Dale Olds: Novell use-Cases > > - PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/40573/id-cloud-novell-use-cases.pdf > > (a) Novell-UC/Issue #1: Configuration of IdP (per tenant) > o Tools and mechanisms needed so that configurations > can be managed programmatically. > o Desired Outcome: A tenant can quickly and securely manage > their use of many cloud services using automated tools > rather than navigating and manually configuring each > service individually. > o See Sect 1.1.2 of Novell Use-Case PDF. > > o Q: how to indicate categories of interest? (Dale) > - A: Matt: most of the uses-cases already presume/assume > features such as AuthN and AuthZ. > - As such, call-out unique aspects and flows > of your use-case. > - The Categories (as shown in Table in Sect 1.1.3) are > also used for indexing the use-cases. > > (b) Novell-UC/Issue #2: Delegated Access > o Goal: The tenant administrator should be able to > delegate access to their identity services configuration > (within a multi-tenant cloud service) to the identity > provider service. > o See Sect 1.2 of Novell Use-Case PDF. > > o Flow: > - A tenant administrator signs up for a new cloud services > for her users. > - Her identity services are provided by a third party. > - She notifies the IdP that she wants her > users to have access to the new services which she just > signed-up for. > - The IdP can exchange whatever configuration and > metadata is required with each new service on > behalf of the tenant administrator (without > authenticating to each service as her). > > > (c) Novell-UC/Issue #3: Association of a User and Tenant > o When a user accesses a multi-tenant cloud service, > the service may need to be able to associate the user > with a tenant account. > o See Sect 1.3 of Novell Use-Case PDF. > > o Example: A Department D1 with an IdP (IDP#1) in an > organization buys a cloud service and wants to allow > people in a different department D2 with a different > IdP (IDP#2) access to that new cloud service. > o Need a way to associate tenant account at the service > with people/users in department D2 when the people > authenticate to access the service. > > o Part of the solution may be through IdP Discovery > (eg. IdP multiplex to multi-tenant service). > o Use-case still rough, and will be improved. > > o Q: should Dale add a new section to Use-case > doc structure? (Dale) > - A: Matt: UC not need to be a long. > Best to identify new aspects not covered in > other use-cases. > > o Next-steps: Dale will work further on UC and re-submit. > o Anil: want to include Novell UC in next release of > ID-Cloud Use-cases (Editor's Draft). > > > (6) Editor's Draft of ID-Cloud Use-Cases doc (Matt) > > - Current version is same as from 2 weeks ago: > http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/id-cloud/doc/committee/interim/id-cloud-use-cases-draft-01m.doc?rev=5&sc=1 > > - Matt will add new use-cases received (target for > discussion at next telecon in January). > - Matt will try to get an updated doc this Friday Dec 17th. > > o Q: Anil: should we set a Deadline for use-case submissions? > - A: John Dilley: yes, a deadline is good idea :) > > > (7) Feedback from ITU Workshop (Anil) > - ITU Workshop was Mon-Tue last week. > > - Anil received good feedback about ID-Cloud TC: > o Obtained 1 new member already. > o Anil talked about ID-Cloud TC specifically. > o There was another presentation on security, but it was > only a general presentation on the security issues > of cloud computing. > > > (8) OMG Telecom Cloud Conference Feedback (John Dilley) > - John presented some slides, covering: > o The OASIS organization. > o The ID-Cloud TC > o The meeting was mostly open discussion. > o Attendees were mainly vendors. > o The was a comment to the effect that cloud computing today > is re-discovering the old identity management problem. > > - John learnt of two new interesting/relevant > organizations: DISR and GIG > o GIG has been around for several years. > > - Another interesting comment was that open source software > is as influential (or more influential than) standards. > > - Take-aways: > o Recommendation to take the message about cloud > computing to the end-user organization. > + Example: city-councils or town management. > + Need to truly understand their use-cases and pain-points. > > o CloudStandard.org Wiki: > + Website/Wiki lists various orgs in cloud computing. > + Oasis and ID-Cloud TC already listed. > > > (9) Next F2F Meeting: > - Thomas asks if we plan to have F2F at RSA Conference 2011. > o RSA2011 dates: Week of Monday 14 Feb 2011. > > - There is already a Kantara ID Collaboration day on Mon 14th. > > - Anil: TC will need to decide if it wants to meet at RSA2011. > > > (10) No meeting of ID-Cloud TC on December 27th. > - Anil will remove from calendar. > > (11) Meeting adjourned.
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