RE: [id-cloud] Groups - Inter-Cloud Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud -Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) uploaded

[Colin Wallis <Colin.Wallis@dia.govt.nz>]

Roger

One of the dubious pleasures of being close to date line and the first to see the new day, I can take stab at this while most other folks are still enjoying their weekend:-).

Man, this use case is a complex beast to get through! (particularly on a Monday when my brain's got even more cobwebs than usual).  But at a high level, it seems to be something one might expect to see in the emerging generation of trust Frameworks, where identity assurance and data exchange agreements are profiled to suit a particular use case.

This use case steps across many technical boundaries - protocols, business rules, federation rules etc.

In an attempt to (probably over-) simplify it, I can't get past the notion that this could be done with Web Services calls running over a rules engine (I am not at all sure having a valid email address gives any sense of security for sending invoices but let's put that aside) within a federation.

So while think the use case (at least at a high level) is valid for this TC, there are probably other additional fora where the development of federated trust frameworks is their 'core business'. I would point to Kantara and the ITU-T as examples, but existing 'federations' such as Fixs.org (and the banking and telco settlement regimes themselves), have some of the elements this use case touches on.  

So while I can see that lots of standardisation, and maybe an agreed technical design approach has to come to pass before (secure) 'inter-cloud' becomes a reality, I'm not sure its all totally new, but rather just an extension in complexity of where we are now.

FWIW..

Cheers
Colin  
 
-----Original Message-----
From: roger@traxian.com [mailto:roger@traxian.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 26 March 2011 5:46 p.m.
To: id-cloud@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [id-cloud] Groups - Inter-Cloud Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud - Inter-Cloud Doc Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) uploaded

As discussed on the last TC call, I'm submitting an initial use case
document regarding Inter-Cloud scenarios, specifically for Business
Document Exchange. I'd welcome feedback (either on the email list or as
document comments) as to:
- document content
- fit with the TC's work schedule in particular the upcoming F2F meeting,
and
- individuals outside this TC who might be interested
- additional or alternate venues where it might make sense to introduce
this. 

As an initial draft, it doubtless has significant errors and omissions. I'm
also submitting it to the BusDoc Exchange TC to get their feedback as
well.

Best regards,
Roger Bass

 -- Roger Bass

The document named Inter-Cloud Use Cases (OASIS ID Cloud - Inter-Cloud Doc
Exchange Use Case v0.11 2011-03-25.doc) has been submitted by Roger Bass to
the OASIS Identity in the Cloud TC document repository.

Document Description:
Identity use cases relating to Inter-Cloud communications, specifically for
business document exchange.

View Document Details:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=41622

Download Document:  
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41622/OASIS%20ID%20Cloud%20-%20Inter-Cloud%20Doc%20Exchange%20Use%20Case%20v0.11%202011-03-25.doc


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