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Tentative Agenda for next meeting:
* The Reading
* Opens
* Review/Update PWG Bin List
- Plan to review (at least) top-to-bottom in the last meeting of each month
* PCIe Base r6.1
-
See updated snapshots posted periodically by SteveG
-
PLAN: Approve for 2wk+MemberReview 22 June (!)
* Errata â ongoing (GordC, GeneS & All)
* ECR- MMPT
-
PLAN: Approve for Member Review 22 June 2023
* ECR: Multi-Path (All/placeholder)
-
PLAN: Focus on this once 6.1 is done
* ECR: OHC-E / E-E Prefixes (SridharM)
- Draft pending
* ECR: Architectural Out-of-Band Management
- In 2-week review ending (nominally) 6 June â Need to ensure form factor WGs pay attention
* D-ECN: CMA-SPDM Revised
- In Member Review
* D-ECN: 12V-2x6 Connector Updates to PCIe Base 6.0
- In Member Review ending Monday July 24, 2023
* ECR: ATS 2.0
- The ad-hoc sub-team is taking the summer off
* Remote Memory Operations
- Discuss: Should we establish a designated authority for defining operations?
* ECR: Inter-System Bridge (ISB) (DaveH & All)
- Updates from ad-hoc as warranted
* Review any items from PCISIG Tech Forums that may warrant errata/ECR [GeneS+All]
* ECR: Link Aggregation (DaveH)
- Update pending
* PCIe 6.0 â
- Compliance Spec needs â Discuss & Identify owner(s)
* ECR: Determination of Supported Capabilities (DoSC) (SteveG)
* Plan next meetings
=-=-=-=-=-=-= Minutes: 2023-06-08
Present (in Bold):
Voting Companies (2/3 needed for quorum, so 23 * 2/3 = 15.333
à 16)
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Attendance History**
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AMD
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pppppp
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Gord Caruk
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George Provelengios
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Nat Barbiero
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Don Matthews
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Ampere Computing
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ppppp
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Dave Harriman
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Robert Toepfer
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Rob Gough
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ARM
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pppppp
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Charles Giefer
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Yuval Elad
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Alex Chadwick
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Travis Hamilton
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Broadcom Ltd
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pppppp
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Yair Aizenberg
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Bret Henning
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Dave Uddenberg
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Sushil Verghese
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Suresh Babu
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Sam Khoo
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Mike Bieker
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Jeff Dodson
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Cadence
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pppapp
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Anish Mathew
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Navnit Kashyap
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Saravana B
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Terry Tam
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M Satish Kumar
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Ankur Vaish
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Rick Schmidt
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Peter Arnoldy
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Martin James
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Saravana Balakrishnan
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Kilaru Vamsikrishna
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Dell
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pppppp
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Austin Bolen
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Glen Sescila
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Charlie Ziegler
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Craig Chaiken
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Tim Lambert
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Teresa Gillon
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Enfabrica
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ppppp
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Thomas Norrie
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John Greth
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HPE
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pppppp
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Joe Cowan
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Mujeeb Rehman
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James Regan
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Rob Elliot
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Huawei
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pppapa
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Alex Umansky
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Jinshui Liu
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Tarzan Pan
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Jason Guo
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IBM
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pa*pppp
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Eric Lais
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Jeff Hanscom
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Petar Pepeljugoski
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Intel
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pppa*pp
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Sridhar Muthrasanallur
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Jiewen Yao
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Utkarsh Kakaiya
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Tiffany Kasanicky
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Swadesh Choudhary
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Eliel Louzoun
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Kioxia
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pppppp
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John Geldman
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Paul Suhler
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James Borden
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Marvell
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pppppp
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Kee Shik Chung
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Greg Green
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John Kim
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Brad Sonksen
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Larry Tesdall
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Peter Jenkins
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MediaTek
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ppppp
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Tung-Sheng Lin
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Ta Hsing Liu
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Akan Lin
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Microchip
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pppppp
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Praveen Alexander
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Tam Do
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Tim Symons
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Ihab Jaser
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Igor Ziper
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Micron
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pppppp
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John Maroney
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Prateek Sharma
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Walt Hubis
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NVIDIA
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pppppp
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Steve Glaser
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Mitch Miskoski
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Parav Pandit
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Derek Rohde
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Varun Sampath
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Jonathon Evans
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Parade
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paappp
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Bob McVay
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Qualcomm
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aa*pppp
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Jim Panian
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Lalan Mishra
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Samsung
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pppppp
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Michael Choi
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Mike Allison
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Eric Hibbard
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SK Hynix / Solidigm
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pppppp
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Chris Kim
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Santosh Kumar
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Synopsys
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pppppp
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Richard Solomon
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Will Felten
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Paul Cassidy
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Sumit Dalal
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Michael Chen
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Tony Bacchillone
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Prasad Subudhi
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Sahil Sharma
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Shaun Clem
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Mike Borza
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Alessandro Leoni
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Joe McCann
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Pedro Costa
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Antonio Pacheco
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Deepak Kumar
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Brian Crofts
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Murali Makkena
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Western Digital
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pppppp
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Dave Landsman
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Danny Ybarra
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Yoni Shternhell
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** Attendance History: presence adds âpâ to left-hand side, absence adds âaâ to left-hand side; character at right-hand
side removed at each meeting; âa*â indicates that a note was sent regarding a planned absence; The character â|â is used to mark a status change
Observing Companies (with recent participation)
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Alphawave IP
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Michael Klempa
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Gopi Krishnamurthy
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Amphenol
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Joseph Cin
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Astera Labs
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Wesley Yung
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Credo
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Lee Khem
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eTopus
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Bill Lam
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Curt Ridgeway
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FermionIC Design
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Abhra Bagchi
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FIT/Hon Hai
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Jon Jacoby
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Fungible
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Aibing Zhou
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General Motors
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Sudhakaran Maydiga
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Google
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Jon Masters
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Granite River Labs
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Vasudev Uttharahalli
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Kandou
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Majid Foodeei
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Alessandro Basili
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Efren Brito
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Amine
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Deepika
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Keysight
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David Woolf
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Randy Garrett
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Lightelligence
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Eric Wehage
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Microsoft
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Gerardo Diaz
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Jon Lange
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Shen Wang
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Ishwar Agarwal
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Balaji Vembu
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Mahmud Hassan
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Molex
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Egide Murisa
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National Instruments
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Phil Hindman
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Primesoc Technologies
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J, Jebaselvi
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QNX/BB
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Mike Kisel
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Rivos
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Ved Shanbhogue
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Ravi Sahita
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Siemens /
Mentor Graphics
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Richa Gupta
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Om Prakash
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Tufail Ansari
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Seagate
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Matthew Lovell
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Jim Hatfield
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TE Connectivity
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Brian Costello
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Phillip Chang
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Tektronix
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Nitin Jhanwar
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Senthil Thandapani
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Kevin Ziegler
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Truechip
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Akship Agrawal
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Upower
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Holger Schanz
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Roger Karam
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VTM
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Chris Brokke
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Gene Saghi
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Zach Uhles
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Xconn
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Jianping Jiang
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* The Reading
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* Opens
DaveH: Reminder â no meeting next week (DevCon)
=-=-=-=
* Review/Update PWG Bin List
- Plan to review (at least) top-to-bottom in the last meeting of each month
No updates
=-=-=-=
* Programming Interface Request â Pending from SridharM
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Tentative: Approve PI
SridharM: This is a programming interface requested for an industry NIC interface called IDPF â not a new class code, just a PI in an existing sub-class â
SteveG: Assume IDPF will handle versioning?
SridharM: Yes, thatâs right
â review briefly on WebEx â URL ok â posted:
https://members.pcisig.com/wg/PCIe-Protocol/document/19647
SridharM (Intel): Move to approve the PI request
SteveG (NVidia): Second
<discussion â none>
All Aye
No Nay
No Abstain
=-=-=-=
* PCIe Base r7.0 v0.3 Spec
- In 14 day cross WG/BoD review ending June 6th
- Updated copy posted:
https://members.pcisig.com/wg/PCIe-Protocol/document/folder/1341
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PLAN: Approve for Member review 8 June
SteveG: This file should be good to go â will change file name and watermark â
review briefly on WebEx â
SteveG (NVidia): Move to approve
SridharM (Intel): Second
<discussion â none>
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Yes
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No
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Abstain
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Absent / No response
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AMD
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x
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ARM
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x
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Broadcom Ltd
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x
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Cadence
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x
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Dell
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x
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Enfabrica
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x
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HPE
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x
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Huawei
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x
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IBM
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x
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Intel
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x
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Kioxia
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x
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Marvell
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x
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MediaTek
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x
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Microchip
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x
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Micron
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x
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NVIDIA
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x
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Parade
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x
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Qualcomm
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Not Present
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Samsung
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x
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SK Hynix / Solidigm
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x
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Synopsys
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x
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Western Digital
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x
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Ampere Computing
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x
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Motion approved
=-=-=-=
* PCIe Base r6.1
-
See updated snapshot posted periodically by SteveG
-
PLAN: Approve for 2wk+MemberReview 8 June (!)
SteveG: Posted multiple changebar versions â Latest draft is the 06-05 â SteveG reviews on WebEx â
Two big errata items from JoeC, and need to confirm the OHC-E content from SridharM
YairA: Have a couple of questions re A393 <will resend> â
Discuss the issues with Address-routed Messages flagged by SridharM â discuss at some length â SridharM to write up the proposed changes â such that no changes
are made for NFM â only FM â to be B435
<Pop back to PI request â above>
Review JoeC items re Tags on WebEx â should be in the next 6.1 snapshot
FM to NFM translation items â review in detail â will require more thought / offline work
Discuss the VF Larger-Tag item â agree this should be a distinct errata item: B436 â
Recap â JoeCâs items: B433, B434, B436 + B437 (not yet generated) ; SridharMâs item: B435
ALL: Please push ahead to resolve these â Set a strong goal to release the 6.1 by end of June
=-=-=-=
* Errata â ongoing (GordC, GeneS & All)
Discussed in the context of the 6.1 (above)
=-=-=-=
* ECR: Multi-Path (All/placeholder)
-
PLAN: Focus on this once 6.1 is done
* ECR: Architectural Out-of-Band Management
- In 2-week review ending (nominally) 6 June â Need to ensure form factor WGs pay attention
DaveH: 2wk ended â no feedback received yet â pls send note if any is on the way â sub-team working towards member review copy â target end of June-ish
=-=-=-=
* D-ECN: CMA-SPDM Revised
- In Member Review
* D-ECN: 12V-2x6 Connector Updates to PCIe Base 6.0
- In Member Review
* ECR: OHC-E / E-E Prefixes (SridharM)
- Draft pending
* ECR: ATS 1.2 / 2.0
- Updates from ad-hoc as warranted
* Remote Memory Operations
- Discuss: Should we establish a designated authority for defining operations?
* ECR- MMPT
- in 2-week review ending 26 May
DaveH: Review ended â Tiffany out this week â will plan to vote this for Member Review in 2wks
* ECR: Inter-System Bridge (ISB) (DaveH & All)
- Updates from ad-hoc as warranted
* Review any items from PCISIG Tech Forums that may warrant errata/ECR [GeneS+All]
<out of time â try to cover next meeting>
* ECR: Link Aggregation (DaveH)
- Update pending
Is this subsumed by multi-path? Discuss briefly â Agree â letâs remove this line item from the agenda
* PCIe 6.0 â
- Compliance Spec needs â Discuss & Identify owner(s)
* ECR: Determination of Supported Capabilities (DoSC) (SteveG)
No updates
* Plan next meetings
<see updated agenda at top>
=-=-=-= END =-=-=-=