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Subject: Re: [idtrust-ms] STORK 2 - EU cross-border identity pilot projects


Anil, we recommend possible experts on specific standards with some  frequency; sometimes as liaisons (in which OASIS retains a role), sometimes as contractors (in which generally we don't).  Regards J

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On May 13, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Anil Saldhana <Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hal,
> do you know if there is any precedence to hiring standards experts on contractual basis via Oasis?
> 
> I would presume we just have to request someone from the SAML TC who is in Europe to be the liaison.
> 
> Regards,
> Anil
> 
> On 05/13/2011 09:48 AM, Peter F Brown wrote:
>> OK,
>> 
>> So the main question is: Who feels that they could provide authoritative
>> input and advice to the STORK 2 project, particularly with regard to SAML?
>> 
>> If we can get a name, I’d be happy to provide the liaison with the proposed
>> STORK 2 consortium to get them on board. But we have to be quick, as the
>> deadline is looming….
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And, yes, there is contractual money involved
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Laurent M. Liscia [mailto:laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org]
>> Sent: Friday, 13 May, 2011 07:25
>> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: 'Anil Saldhana'; hal.lockhart@oracle.com; Jamie.clark@oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: FW: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you Peter (what are you doing up so early?),
>> For once I can speak for OASIS since this is a bit of an admin issue.
>> OASIS does not possess IPR per se - our members do; that's why, even when we
>> are members of another org, we contribute no IPR. But we do have people
>> representing us in "consortia" or large-scale projects, such as STORK. I
>> think SIENA is exactly like STORK and we have Gershon Janssen and John
>> Borras speaking on behalf of OASIS: they provide advice and act as liaisons.
>> That is completely feasible. If Anil or Hal care to do the same ...
>> Finally it seems to me that the end-game is to get these guys to standardize
>> their output in OASIS as per the PEPPOL example.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/12/2011 6:00 PM, Peter F Brown wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm,
>> 
>> Is there anything we can do with this?
>> 
>> Would SAML be interested and/or able to take this up? And how would we
>> handle the legal/contractual issues of ‘OASIS’ as an entity joining such a
>> consortium…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Alicia Garcia Medina [mailto:alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011 14:54
>> To: Alicia Garcia Medina; peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: Peter Kustor ; Alberto Crespo Garcia; Ana Maria Piñuela Marcos;
>> miguel.alvarez@mpr.es; Riedl Reinhard; Neil.Clowes@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk;
>> Reinhard Posch
>> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Peter,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have communicated to the core team your interest and some question arises
>> since in STORK we do not create standards but support standardisation and we
>> would need technical advice on WP4´s SAML profile.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Could you please indicate to me who would participate as legal entity? Is
>> OASIS a legal entity or will it be a company?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I copy in this message WP4 leader (Miguel) and WP6 co-leaders (Reinhard and
>> Neil) so you all can check if this fits in STORK 2.0.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Alicia.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@peterfbrown.com]
>> Sent: martes, 10 de mayo de 2011 19:57
>> To: 'Reinhard Posch'
>> Cc: 'Peter Kustor '; Alicia Garcia Medina
>> Subject: RE: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Reinhard, thanks for the prompt reply.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Indeed, the project is about pilots and with an extended scope as you say,
>> with health sector and banking.
>> 
>> Our concern, as OASIS, would be to see what role we can play in facilitating
>> the development of new – or greater take-up of existing – standards in this
>> project. As you know, we have a new TC set up to pursue work for PEPPOL (the
>> OASIS BDX TC) that will hopefully provide a durable standard beyond the
>> lifetime of that large-scale pilot – so the main question is: has STORK
>> identified a “gap in the market” of IDM standards that needs to be filled?
>> If the answer is yes, then our participation could be helpful; if no, then
>> it would be a different issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Reinhard Posch [mailto:reinhard.posch@cio.gv.at]
>> Sent: Monday, 09 May, 2011 21:34
>> To: peter@peterfbrown.com
>> Cc: Peter Kustor
>> Subject: Re: STORK 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> .. indeed June 1st is very near. On the question of technicality of joining
>> this late
>> 
>> Alicia Garcia Medina<alicia.garcia@atosresearch.eu>  from ATOS could give
>> 
>> you more details.
>> 
>> Then it would come to what is OASIS bringing to the pilots. It is pilots -
>> having
>> 
>> said this I mean that it is about interoperability of existing eID of Member
>> States
>> 
>> also with flavors like using them in the private sector like banks and heath
>> care.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Was nice to hear from you
>> 
>> Reinhard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 10.05.2011 um 01:40 schrieb Peter F Brown:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I was talking last week in Brussels with Jean-Francois Junger at the
>> European Commission and he mentioned the current CfP for the next phase of
>> STORK.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He suggested that OASIS, as a standards organisation active in IDM, ought to
>> consider joining the proposed new consortium, and help with the delivery of
>> standards to be used in the STORK.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts on the matter? Is it realistic, given that the deadline is 1st
>> June?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards from (not so sunny) Los Angeles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Peter F Brown
>> 
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