Re: Services Project Charter -- minor revision needed

["Ed Dodds" <dodds@e-dodds.com>]

From:	Janet T. Martino, MD [SMTP:med.it@cox.net]
To:	David Forslund; Ken Rubin
Cc:	healthcare@omg.org; Mark Shafarman
Subject:	Re: Services Project Charter -- minor revision needed
Sent:	11/18/04 12:26 PM

David, good to see you surface again.  The following should help answer part
of your question - itıs a cross post from the HL 7 servicesbof list.  The
bottom line is, we are working on the full answer.

From: <Alan.P.Honey@kp.org>
Reply-To: <Alan.P.Honey@kp.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:24:11 -0800
Subject: Notes from OMG Healthcare Day

This note is a brief summary of the events at the OMG Healthcare day on
11/06.
 
Full meeting minutes have been circulated on the OMG Healthcare list
(healthcare@omg.org <mailto:healthcare@omg.org> )  and are available at

http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?health/2004-11-06
<http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?health/2004-11-06>

In summary, the OMG HDTF Healthcare Day was very successful. About one third
of the attendees were from HL7 or HL7 member organizations. A very
productive discussion took place  focused largely on the relationship
between the OMG HDTF and HL7, and the context for healthcare service
interface definition within the OMG.  This discussion was initiated by a
number of presentations from the Jeff Sutherland ( PatientKeeper -- Orders
and Observations Co-Chair), Leroy Jones (ONCHIT), David Harrington
(Medicalert/OMG), Mike Milinkovich (Eclipse) and Ken Rubin (VHA , past PIC
co-chair, HL7 ServicesBOF Convenor ).
 
The relationship and respective roles of HL7 and OMG was defined with much
greater clarity, and is summarized as follows (in the form of sequential
steps for producing a specification):
1.   HL7 Services Project will define scenarios and priorities for service
specifications.
2.   HL7 Services Project will define the  information content for  the
chosen services , relating their payload to the RIM
3.   HL7 Services Project would produce a computationally-independent model
(CIM).  This CIM is a services specification that may be manifested in
multiple implementation technologies.
 4 . Using the CIM, the OMG  will create an RFP identifying mandatory and
optional requirements for all submissions intended to satisfy it.  It was
decided that OMG RFPs would be supportive of HL7 specifications and call out
relevant HL7 work products and standards as appropriate.
 5.  OMG will issue the RFPs for submissions of platform-independenet and
platform-specific submissions, reviewing them based upon consistency with
and conformance to its RFP requirements.
6.   The  OMG  RFP template to be used will be reviewed by HL7 Services
Project to ensure it will meet any HL7 requirements (in principle) , and to
ensure that HL7 work products are supportive of this downstream dependency.
7.   Submissions for OMG standards will go through that organization's
approval process. Part of the OMG process is that submitters must implement
either product or reference implementations within a designated time period
upon approval of the specification.
 
 Other notes:
1.        The Eclipse organization is keen to be involved and may provide
submissions.
2.        The approach will be discussed further at both HL7 and OMG
meetings in Jan/Feb.
 
The next OMG meeting is in Burlingame, CA on January 30 through February
4th.  Those interested may register at
http://www.omg.org/registration/registration-info.htm
<http://www.omg.org/registration/registration-info.htm>

Regards,

Alan Honey
Enterprise Architect
Kaiser Permanente.
925 979 7459  (tl 474)
Alan.P.Honey@kp.org

Janet

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> From: David Forslund <dwf@lanl.gov>
> Reply-To: David Forslund <dwf@lanl.gov>
> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:28:24 -0700
> To: "Rubin, Ken (EDS)" <Ken.Rubin@med.va.gov>
> Cc: <healthcare@omg.org>, <mark.shafarman@oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: Services Project Charter -- minor revision needed
>
>
> I don't have an objection, but I don't understand how HL7 defines services
> specifications
> relative to the services specifications of the OMG.  What do service
> specifications have to do
> to be "conformant" to HL7 services and how does this fit with the OMG process?
>
> Perhaps someone could help me understand what this means.
>
> Dave Forslund
>> ------------Original Message------------
>> From: "Rubin, Ken (EDS)" <Ken.Rubin@med.va.gov>
>> To: servicesbof@lists.hl7.org
>> Cc: healthcare@omg.org, mark.shafarman@oracle.com
>> Date: Tue, Nov-16-2004 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Services Project Charter -- minor revision needed
>>
>> All:
>>
>> I had a talk today with Mark Shafarman (HL7 Chair) about our charter,
>> and he pointed out an omission that we need to address.  Though all
>> along the intention was that these services were complementary and
>> supportive of the RIM and its underlying artifacts, this is not
>> expressly called out as one of the project objectives.
>>
>> As such, I'd like to propose changing one of the objectives in the peer
>> reviewed document from:
>>
>> - To facilitate the development of a set of implementable
>> interface standards supporting agreed-upon services specifications to
>> form the basis for provider purchasing and procurement decision.
>>
>> to read as two objectives:
>>
>> - To facilitate the development of a set of implementable
>> interface standards supporting HL7 RIM content
>> - To promote the use of HL7 services specifications as the basis
>> for provider purchasing and procurement decisionmaking.
>>
>>
>> Please address any objections to this change to the list(s).  I will
>> presume that the change has been accepted if no negative comments have
>> been posted before Monday November 22 at 8:00am EST.
>>
>> The project charter has been attached for your convenience.
>>
>> - Ken
>>
>>
>>  <<HL7 Services Specification Project v1.01.doc>>
>>
>>
>> Ken Rubin
>> EDS
>> VHA Health Information Architecture Office
>>
>> 5109 Leesburg Pike, Suite 414
>> Falls Church, VA 22041   USA
>> 
>> ( Phone:+1-703-845-3299)
>> + mailto:ken.rubin@med.va.gov
>>
>>
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