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Subject: Re: [imi] Question regarding encryption


Hi John,

thanks for your quick response. I'll check how some of the publicly available IdPs handle non-auditing cards.

> In principal if a user doesn't want a IdP to know where they are using the card, they should use a p-card or choose a
> issuer they trust.

I was thinking of a government-driven IdP where users probably don't want the IdP to know all services they use.


kind regards,

Mario

John Bradley schrieb:
> Mario,
> 
> If a auditing mode card is not used,  there is no audience restriction in the SAML token.
> 
> The response is encrypted to the selector and then the selector encrypts it to the RP.
> 
> In both cases the RP receives a token encrypted with it's public key.
> 
> If the RP is not SSL the token is not encrypted to the RP in ether case.
> 
> Auditing or not is largely (read the spec for auditing optional) controlled by the issuer, and is pert of the card
> meta-data.
> 
> A user has control  by selecting a auditing card or a non-auditing card.  However the selectors don't show the user
> what sort of card it is.   They could do it, but the current ones don't to my knowledge.
> 

> 
> John B. On 2009-12-07, at 7:28 AM, Mario Ivkovic wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've a question regarding encryption and privacy. Maybe this has been already discussed and I missed it.
>> 
>> 
>> A security token issued by an IdP is - if the IdP knows the certificate of the RP - encrypted with the RP's public
>> key.
>> 
>> But if for some reasons the user doesn't want that the IdP knows the RP but still wants encryption this cannot be
>> done. Is it possible to encrypt the token with a public key belonging to the user (card selector)? The user then
>> decrypts the token, verifies it, and then encrypts it again with the RP's public key.
>> 
>> kind regards,
>> 
>> Mario
>> 
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>> 
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>> +43 (316) 873-5528  Fax.: +43 (316) 873-105521 Mario.Ivkovic@a-sit.at
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DI Mario Ivkovic
A-SIT, Secure Information Technology Center - Austria
Inffeldgasse 16a, A-8010 Graz, Austria
Tel.: +43 (316) 873-5528  Fax.: +43 (316) 873-105521
Mario.Ivkovic@a-sit.at


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