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Subject: Re: [legalcite-markup-discuss] Jurisdictional scope
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Frank, On 09/29/2013 08:33 AM, Frank Bennett wrote: > Patrick raises an important point about jurisdictional scope. From > his note to another thread: > > ***** > > Link: > https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/legalcite-markup-discuss/201309/msg00004.html > > ***** > > I think that it is important to keep world-wide scope in view, > while acknowledging both that we can't get there in one go, and > that it will be an ever-receding target (which does not conflict > with Patrick's point, as I understand it). > No conflict at all. > This got me to thinking, and I have a couple of questions. For > world-wide (and historical) coverage, we would need a set of > concrete jurisdiction specifiers, such as contemplated by the > LEX:URN draft. Also, within a given jurisdiction there is a finite > number of reporters/sources for primary legal text, with local > conventions for their abbreviation in citations. Both of these > (jurisdiction identifiers and journal abbreviations) are areas > where there is a fair amount of variance across projects, and a > good deal of chaos out in the wild. Is the establishment (and > maintenance) of canonical lists for these two (for the latter, at > least for the US jurisdiction, initially) within the scope of the > proposal? > I would hope both jurisdictional identifiers and journal abbreviations, from digital projects as well as "in the wild" as you say would be within the scope of the project. Particularly your suggestion that such lists should be established and maintained. I am especially interested that such lists capture the variants of identifiers and abbreviations, machine readable and otherwise. I say that because establishing "another" set of identifiers or abbreviations, even with much improved metadata, confronts adopters of prior solutions with a choice of re-writing existing systems in order to take advantage of the improved metadata. Some will, some won't, hard to say where the tipping point would be for that decision. However, if the TC develops such lists, along with its identifiers, and the identifiers/abbreviations used by others, the transition process to obtain the benefits of the better metadata has a much lower learning curve and adoption ramp. That is another project or adopters of another project can still use their present identifiers and yet access and deliver the same metadata that is produced for the canonical lists of identifiers and abbreviations. Eventually some of the current identifier systems will fall into disuse but the maintenance of the canonical lists will mean that data using those identifiers need never go "dark" with regard to its identifiers. In terms of immediate benefits, both jurisdiction and journl abbreviation lists + metadata would form the basis for citation checkers (depending on how much metadata we collect). Not that the TC need sponsor such an application but I suspect law libraries could be interested in creating and sharing such an application. I looked briefly at citation software but what I saw was geared towards entering the citation in the correct form, not checking to see if the citation was correct. I assume that if we have volume by volume metadata, then checking the correctness of cites becomes mechnical. Hope everyone is having a great week! Patrick > Frank > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legalcite-markup-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > legalcite-markup-discuss-help@lists.oasis-open.org > - -- Patrick Durusau patrick@durusau.net Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB) Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net Homepage: http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSVESKAAoJEAudyeI2QFGo2kQQAMgshatmMEVGYPQkw61H2KCZ vqaEtsMXtYFC4hk6YvTlikIxBysaD/QDrWuum66J3W23nNwf6fAFHtdY74Onnuw2 6sXL9Q3ZY3sJcEqb65qpm6z7bdhm/3Omz/d0TfV3B3qj2nr3arMgyludfB3hXDlL C72yxiiSEWzq4v2IfNlAShV/a+E2FlQGtA4adr0DLrHaY64ruSg1r/Z7LTjtIkzU PcAQkWlF5+5KpLBLB1b5ecx1NyHWtOym4alrmLCO4lneqDTDzHYLKdHsVszpEejY nCgsBLtOKuHDeyeL+eZQAi1T2qw56hsfEPx/IPqYz2SVjsKV/WrYBHGHc3NH42hw 82bt5N/6lNj8AuJxJSVffNem25QPl9WjL74FcyxYB8TjrNVoppJCLTOJdNtgWck1 SlZ/bbwR0VbMBWIjuEkSOfawGHPRcK7Q8uso5uzVgHRbNYa7dd+EyNlqTk9qYGjR vh97r+y2hfkeqbfXloIlHnBSLyvBbB2WMdLapOyIaLJtPryWkZHgQjx/K1u296r7 67WyqAU6sskoYyOhOiFEMKDv094jatG8KVY4lNsPmjZIBClPVxWe0/wQzwl7PGUZ UxpTrkd2uaSWTFdg3zZdSP82nF1r1nsDvAWPVruE95/qgBjNhV4IcX0nZN7nOrID EDtfOnPh+bNWMVsUmdNf =zNZU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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