Re: [legalcite-markup-discuss] Cross-walks to existing database systems

[Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>]

>> Another omission from the charter is discovery, reporting and mapping
between existing legal metadata database holdings. 

There was discussion of that in earlier conversations - my take is that our work should support those use cases / business needs but we shouldn't try to propose how it should be done. 

>> It is unreasonable to think that existing metadata databases will
covert their legacy (from a legalcite viewpoint) data into the model
produced by the proposed TC, 

I agree - looking at their needs / structures strikes me as an important part of the process of developing a standard 

>> A journey into the sea of legal citations ... Perhaps it's age but setting out in a small boat

I love the sailing analogy... 

>> PS: I can suggest some formal charter language if that would be helpful.

Please do - that would help focus the discussion. 

/chet

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote:

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Greetings!

One post spawns another! ;-)

While writing about the need to hold the metadata separate from a
citation in a text, it occurred to me that there are already databases
in existence now that hold such data.

Those would be in addition to the legal markup systems I asked about
yesterday, which are not mentioned as being candidates for mappings
between legalcite TC markup and their markup in the charter.

Another omission from the charter is discovery, reporting and mapping
between existing legal metadata database holdings.

It is unreasonable to think that existing metadata databases will
covert their legacy (from a legalcite viewpoint) data into the model
produced by the proposed TC, unless by some happy accident the TC
happens to duplicate their data model.

Additional items that should be explicitly included in the charter:

1) Mapping (or Crosswalk) between legalcite TC markup and at a
minimum, the highly visible legal markup systems cited in the charter, and

2) Mapping (or Crosswalk) between legalcite TC data model and existing
legal metadata data models, where available.

A journey into the sea of legal citations is more likely to end
pleasantly if we can build a large boat (induce many of the highly
visible systems to participate in the TC) and secure our boat to other
boats (mappings/crosswalks to other systems and metadata databases).

Perhaps it's age but setting out in a small boat, even with skilled
and adventurous colleagues, where a successful journey depends upon
others replacing their views with our own, isn't as attractive as it
might have been, once upon a time.

Please respond on list.

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Patrick

PS: I can suggest some formal charter language if that would be helpful.

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Patrick Durusau
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Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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