Re: [legaldocml] Acts and bills

[Daniel Bennett <daniel@citizencontact.com>]

Perhaps a Google hangout or Skype or other phone conference might be 
helpful on this subject, compared to this email thread. Again, I liked 
Monica showing one example of an instantiation of something into AKN. 
However, it would be helpful to me and perhaps other to see the 
California and/or other jurisdiction have each possible document mapped 
to AKN types. Fabio has a good written explanation, but to go one step 
forward with the AKN example would help me.

This points out the problems of semantics overtaking the object naming 
which could allow representations in element and attribute to be more 
difficult than needed, perhaps.
Daniel


On 2/11/2013 9:10 AM, Aisenberg, Michael A. wrote:
> "Parochial" as in narrow...but unduly local might also fit...knucklehead is a US epithet referring to someone who does something foolish...
> ------Original Message------
> From: McGibbney, Lewis John
> To: Mr Michael Aisenberg
> To: 'fabio@cs.unibo.it'
> To: 'legaldocml@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [legaldocml] Acts and bills
> Sent: Feb 11, 2013 03:53
>
> Hi Michael,
> You find the conversation parochial because it refers in some sense to a church parish or because it is narrow in its scope and views? I assume it has to be one of the two.
> I am not quite getting you here!
> What are knuckleheads? In line with this thread, I am not familiar with the terminology.
> Lewis
>
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> From: legaldocml@lists.oasis-open.org [legaldocml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Aisenberg, Michael A. [maisenberg@mitre.org]
> Sent: 11 February 2013 03:03
> To: 'fabio@cs.unibo.it'; 'legaldocml@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: Re: [legaldocml] Acts and bills
>
> I find this discussion frighteningly parochial.
> Fear of deferring to the U.S. Federal construct, which has been settled since the first edition of Jefferson's Manual, seems to be creating an unnecessary tempest.
> The distinction is entirely procedural and depends on the instrument's posture in the process.  The term "bill" has since the Second Session of the First U.S. Congress referred to any writing seeking to become an element of the U.S. Statutory system ("Public "Laws") properly introduced into one of the two houses of Congress.  In its introduced form, it may (and now commonly does) adopt the style and caption of the form it will have if passed--that is, it refers to itself as an "Act"...BUT IT IS NOT an "ACT" until passed by both houses (at which point it is No Longer a "bill")  and sent to the President for his signature, at which point, the Act will become
> Michael Aisenberg. Sent from handheld.
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